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How about an old NASCAR trick? #160841
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Saw a similar setup in a Magazine a few years ago,I think it was on Marty Robbins Race car.

Im sure its really impractical but it can save on time when troubleshooting ignition problems.

Whats everyone say?

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Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: SPWC] #160842
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As a circle burner I am going to do that next year with my FBO box & an HEI & get back to back runs on test & tune night.


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Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: SPWC] #160843
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Just make sure both work


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: SPWC] #160844
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I did that on my 64 Polara Drag car when I had it. I just think it's a good idea for a racecar. Okay for the street too I guess if you have an extra laying around, also carry a spare ballast resistor in the glovebox too.

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Just make sure both work




I had both tested at the local Autozone before I did anything. They were both just laying around and I was surprised they tested out ok.

Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: SPWC] #160846
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Don't remember who said it..but if you can't win Cheat cheat cheat...

Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: SPWC] #160847
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under the hood would be a bit silly over 15 years ago had two under dash ecus one stock box for street and one gold box next to it for strip or street race. that was before msds ecu were dirt cheap and everywere. now run msd units under dash and put stock stuff on firewall just for show.


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Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: hemigod426] #160848
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I have two msd boxes. I wired the harnes and both boxes so I can just unplug and plug three connections and switch boxes. Also made a wiring extention with all the right plugs so the spare can sit on the passenger floor with wires out window to engine If I need to trravel that way.

ahhh be prepared! I should have been a boy scout!

Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #160849
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Actrually back in the 70's the Mopar boxes were notorious for crapping out for no reason, they often kept an unwired spare within striking distance of the harness as cheap insurance.

call me superstitious but I always keep a cheapo spare ECU and Ballast resistor in my glovebox.

And for my $$$$ The FBO ECU and Coil is the BOMB for the street!


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Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: Streetwize] #160850
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Even today the NASCAR boys carry a spare MSD on the dash to where all they have to do is flip a switch to go to the backup system.

I use an MSD 6AL on my cars hooked to a stock electronic distributor. That way if I want to go on a long trip replacment parts are as near as the local parts house. No MSD distrubutor for me!

Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: Streetwize] #160851
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i am glad you FBO stuff worked, my box craped out after about 3K miles

Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? #160852
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I kept one on my business truck and one in the fasmily car ..needed them both ..once on vacation with the wife & kids and the truck just went bad over night..just switched boxes and kept on truckin

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Just make sure both work


I had 3 in my stash that went bad just from sitting, they worked when I parted the cars out, were never slammed around in storage, but were bad when I ended up using them.


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Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: RapidRobert] #160854
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I have 2 ignitions on the car that I race. Good idea!

Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: 340dart4spd ] #160855
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Don't remember who said it..but if you can't win Cheat cheat cheat...




My Dad (raced S/S from '62-'66) always told me there's 2 kinds of racers. The cheaters and the losers.

Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: Dakota_Don] #160856
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i am glad you FBO stuff worked, my box craped out after about 3K miles




Same here but not before it burn up 2 ballasts.

Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: B5 Bee] #160857
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Did you call Don? I'd be suprised if he wouldn't replace it. Did you use his coil?

A good ground is very important with any of the Mopar style boxes.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: Streetwize] #160858
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Did you call Don? I'd be suprised if he wouldn't replace it. Did you use his coil?

A good ground is very important with any of the Mopar style boxes.




No, I never called Don, it was out of the warranty period.
I did use the FBO coil, I think that was defective. After the FBO ecu failed, I replaced it a MP chrome, then I lost another ballast and then the chrome box. I replaced the FBO coil with the Accel coil I had been using along with a new 1.25ohm ballast and MP chrome box. That was 15,000 miles ago.

Re: How about an old NASCAR trick? [Re: SPWC] #160859
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Just make sure both work




I had both tested at the local Autozone before I did anything. They were both just laying around and I was surprised they tested out ok.




Best option is to ACTUALLY try them. I had a no start problem with my wagon a few years back, had the ECU from the wagon and my spare one tested at O'Rileys, they said both tested OK.

After a week of fussing and A LOT of cussing, I slammed on a different ECU from a known runner, and the wagon fired right up.

So much for being tested as 'good'.

But, back to your question, sure, why not.

I've also seen cars that had a 'stock' ECU and a performance one (like MP's chrome box) so the owner could swap between 'street' and 'race'.


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