727 Trans - Cold Start Delayed Engagement
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04/15/14 12:54 PM
04/15/14 12:54 PM
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Mopar Mitch
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Although my 727 trans was recently rebuilt, whenever I start it cold (from an overnight or extended sitting/storage period), it takes a few moments (~10-15 seconds) for the trans to engage into the gear (say, simply to back out of the garage), then still it seems to have to wait another couple moments to actually move the car. After it runs for a few minutes it seems to be fine and I can drive away for my cruise (typically to a race or show). If it makes any difference, the trans is actually a 1972 model 727 that I've owned and run in the car since the late 1970s.
I have an auxiliary trans cooler (newly replaced), old BM Holeshot converter (bought ~1978), and a basic new shift kit (still fully automatic, but can shift manually if desired up/down). Fluid level is proper when warmed up. It's been like this for many years, even before the recent rebuild.
Car is not driven much. Any suggestions appreciated.
Mopar Mitch
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Re: 727 Trans - Cold Start Delayed Engagement
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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04/15/14 01:06 PM
04/15/14 01:06 PM
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JGriffit
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Sounds like converter is draining out due to not being driven. Easy fix is put it in neutral for a few seconds after starting. That fills the converter much faster than sitting in park. Same issue with my Challenger
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Re: 727 Trans - Cold Start Delayed Engagement
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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04/15/14 01:10 PM
04/15/14 01:10 PM
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Its just the conv draining down... you can start it in neutral and its fills quickly OR the newer trucks have a anti drain back check valve in the line that you can install
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Re: 727 Trans - Cold Start Delayed Engagement
[Re: JGriffit]
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04/15/14 03:59 PM
04/15/14 03:59 PM
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383man
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Quote:
Sounds like converter is draining out due to not being driven. Easy fix is put it in neutral for a few seconds after starting. That fills the converter much faster than sitting in park. Same issue with my Challenger
This is correct as most 727's dont fill the converter in Park unless it was modified. Does not hurt anything as mine does it also. Just start in neutral as was said and it will fill in about 5 to 10 seconds. Or install the drainback valve if it bugs you alot. Ron
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Re: 727 Trans - Cold Start Delayed Engagement
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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04/16/14 03:31 AM
04/16/14 03:31 AM
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Or Trans-go SK-TFSC, has modified TV that will allow the converter to charge in park. About $27 on flea-bay.
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Re: 727 Trans - Cold Start Delayed Engagement
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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04/18/14 10:57 PM
04/18/14 10:57 PM
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I just had my trans out for the same symptoms.Turned out there was too much clearance between the pump gears and the stater causing me to loose pressure to the 'vert.Installed new stater and all is good,snaps right in to gear. Your results may vary
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