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1971 Air Grabber Bubble #1604896
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Does anybody know who would be best to order a new 1971 Plymouth air grabber bubble from? I have one from PG classic that I have been very disappointed with and would like to replace it with something of good quality. I have only been able to find the ones available through stinger fiberglass and I haven't seen any of their products.

Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: markshemiworld] #1604897
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My suggestion would be to find a used one. Its easer to fix one than pulling your hair out over the repos. And cheaper when you throw sending back and all of that.

Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: 71birdJ68] #1604898
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The one I purchased from PG Classic is unfixable. It has cracked all the way through and has large severe bubbles. I have had a hard time finding a used one, and the price is typically out of my range when I do. Also, my car is not an original air grabber car and I would hate to keep someone from getting it that has an original air grabber car. Is there no decent reproduction?

Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: markshemiworld] #1604899
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Is there no decent reproduction?




that is correct.
used or junk repops are your only options...

Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: flypaper] #1604900
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Wow I guess I was naïve. I figured somebody would offer something that didn't crack and split apart immediately. I guess the search for a used one has begun...

Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: markshemiworld] #1604901
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I have no firsthand knowledge of this product, only that it's a vendor other than PG Classics bubble offering,...... AAR/Stinger fiberglass is now www.americansportscar.com

Mike

Perhaps someone has purchased this bubble?

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I bought one about 9 years ago that looks like the Stinger one. Got it on ebay so not 100% sure.
It was a heavy white piece with a door. All the posts had to be tapped and all door holes opened and tapped too.
Took a friend that was a bodyman about a week of after work massaging.

The PG one came out about a year later and I thought boy if only I had waited. Then all the reviews of them came out and it really sounds like junk.

My buddy was able to make that one I bought look really nice especially after shooting it with Organisol. The door wasn't fully closed when that picture was taken.
Ron

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Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: RJS] #1604903
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Almost every single original I've seen has a crack in it. We restored our original and it looked perfect but after a couple of times gently closing the hood, the crack reappeared in the same exact spot. Typically the crack is on the passenger side running from the rear corner of the door outward toward the edge of the bubble. It's barely visible, but I told myself "oh well" that's the way they were from the factory. Find a body man who works on Corvette's and is familiar with working with fiberglas. Your aftermarket bubble can probably be made to look pretty nice by someone who knows what they're doing. You'd have to spend money to restore an original anyway.

Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: RJS] #1604904
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i was dead set on a repop bubble until
i walked down the line of 71-2 cars at carlisle a few years ago
and i obviously could tell
the original hoods apart from the repop bubbles.
at that point i saved some money up and bought a real ag hood.
if i was converting a flat hood,
i would be looking for a used bubble at the least.

Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: markshemiworld] #1604905
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I ordered mine from Mike at BEA some years ago. Fits very well.
My air box and flapper door are from BEA too.

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BEA and PG Classic are the same stuff. The only difference is Mike has part numbers on his. I only dealt with PG once before. I purchased a set of tail light lenses from them. One was cracked and had to be returned (twice). What a pain in the A__. If you live in Canada, it's not a big deal, but international shipping sucks. I should have bought them from BEA instead.

Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: ryangtogtx] #1604907
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I'm in Canada and I won't buy anything from PG.

Sheldon

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It has been about 6 years ago, but I bought the entire kit from Stinger and sure there were some fitment issues but I worked them out. I was very happy with the results. My car was a factory air grabber car but had none of the fiberglass stuff. Heck it was harder finding the attaching castle nuts etc than making the repop fiberglass unit work.
Must have been ok when finished since it won many awards. Even a First in Stock class at the Nats.


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69 GTX hard top
70 Road Runner 4 speed
70 Hemi Cuda vert
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Fininshed hood operational


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Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #1604910
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It has been about 6 years ago, but I bought the entire kit from Stinger and sure there were some fitment issues but I worked them out. I was very happy with the results. My car was a factory air grabber car but had none of the fiberglass stuff. Heck it was harder finding the attaching castle nuts etc than making the repop fiberglass unit work.
Must have been ok when finished since it won many awards. Even a First in Stock class at the Nats.







Thanks Mike, good info, as I need 2 Plymouth Air grabber set ups, and was hesitant on pulling the trigger on the Stinger set-up myself....Nice Car! by the way

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Thanks for the props. A great guy in Canada now owns the car. Here is a shot of the box. I wish I had a better close up so you could see the quality.


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The pictures of those certainly look nice! I ordered a kit from PG and within a month the fiberglass bubbled up terribly. There are at least a dozen bubbles the size of a dime, as well as two very tall bubbles the size of a softball. Also, within 6 months a crack appeared on the drivers side that split completely through to the scoop lid. Even after drilling it out and filling it in, the crack still grew. Customer service only offered a 40% discount off a new one, and I would be required to pay shipping for both the new bubble, and to ship mine back to them. What work was required before paint? Was it just sand and smooth with additional gel coat/primer? or was it necessary to cut out and apply new fiberglass?
Thanks for everybody's tips

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BEA bubble.

8107187-hoodandscoop2.JPG (545 downloads)
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The pictures of those certainly look nice! I ordered a kit from PG and within a month the fiberglass bubbled up terribly. There are at least a dozen bubbles the size of a dime, as well as two very tall bubbles the size of a softball. Also, within 6 months a crack appeared on the drivers side that split completely through to the scoop lid. Even after drilling it out and filling it in, the crack still grew. Customer service only offered a 40% discount off a new one, and I would be required to pay shipping for both the new bubble, and to ship mine back to them. What work was required before paint? Was it just sand and smooth with additional gel coat/primer? or was it necessary to cut out and apply new fiberglass?
Thanks for everybody's tips




That bubble and box was installed in 2006 and unless Lemon Twist has had problems with it (he bought the car) it is still good. All I had to do was sand here and there for fit, no gel coat, no fiberglass fix, no cracks. Sand and assemble, dis assemble and paint, re-assemble and show. Just the way it should work. But again that was in 2006, I have had no additional purchase from them since. I also have a 70 air grabber box from BEA and so far have not had an issue with it, but the car is just now finished and only has 12 miles on it.


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Re: 1971 Air Grabber Bubble [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #1604915
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The pictures of those certainly look nice! I ordered a kit from PG and within a month the fiberglass bubbled up terribly. There are at least a dozen bubbles the size of a dime, as well as two very tall bubbles the size of a softball. Also, within 6 months a crack appeared on the drivers side that split completely through to the scoop lid. Even after drilling it out and filling it in, the crack still grew. Customer service only offered a 40% discount off a new one, and I would be required to pay shipping for both the new bubble, and to ship mine back to them. What work was required before paint? Was it just sand and smooth with additional gel coat/primer? or was it necessary to cut out and apply new fiberglass?
Thanks for everybody's tips




That bubble and box was installed in 2006 and unless Lemon Twist has had problems with it (he bought the car) it is still good. All I had to do was sand here and there for fit, no gel coat, no fiberglass fix, no cracks. Sand and assemble, dis assemble and paint, re-assemble and show. Just the way it should work. But again that was in 2006, I have had no additional purchase from them since. I also have a 70 air grabber box from BEA and so far have not had an issue with it, but the car is just now finished and only has 12 miles on it.




That GTX was finally sold about a year ago.
Ron

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