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Anti roll bars who has them? #1587065
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Getting ready to put mine in.


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Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1587066
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everyone should have them

Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1587067
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Who's is that?
Looks good

Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: DJVCuda] #1587068
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Well it's a s&w bar with a custom rear tube and extensions. They sent some mounts with it and thought this was a better way to mount it in my car.


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Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: Quicktree] #1587069
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everyone should have them





WHY????


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422 Indy headed small block
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9.42@138.27

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Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1587070
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everyone should have them





WHY????


why do you think?

Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: Quicktree] #1587071
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everyone should have them





WHY????


why do you think?




Why do you think we need them?


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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1587072
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I've never had one on a car yet.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1587073
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Talked to John Holt about this while he's been doing our 4 link and he doesn't think there absolutely necessary. Depends on the setup .

Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: Wv68charger] #1587074
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Talked to John Holt about this while he's been doing our 4 link and he doesn't think there absolutely necessary. Depends on the setup .




I wont build a 4-link car without the anti roll bar
but in my opinion a ladder bar doesnt need them unless
its a wimpy one and its flexing

Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1587075
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Went from a 1.43 60' to 1.37, sold me! That 1.43 was at Norwalk and the 1.37 at Tri-State 2 weeks later. The Go-Pro camera really convinced us that it was needed. It's a 4 link with double adj Afco's


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Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1587076
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I have one but it only has one bar that mounts inner frame to frame...i believe mine is from A.R.T

Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: fishy340] #1587077
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I raced without one on an in board 4-link for years. The reason I mention in board is the space between brackets was narrow for the tire width I had. The wider the bracket centers the more stable the car should be.

My car did picture perfect wheel stands and could maintain center of track for a full 1/8 mile wheel stand. So do you need one. HECK NO.

Now do I have one now. Yes. I was at Rockingham running KOS. The track was horrible. I was running Tony Marculwics(surely misspelled sorry Tony) for a two out of three. It was the last round and we were tied. I got on the pedal late in the run and the car picked the left front up pretty high and did not bring it down until the laundry was out. The amount of preload in the fourlink was perfect for launches. But, could not handle the rocking action of a late hit with a lot of nitrous.

I installed an ART with the bearings and all. Ran it for years. Last year was under the car and realized the link to the housing had broken off. It had been broken long enough to have rusted pretty bad and had witness marks where it had been striking the rear end housing. I had not even noticed it. After welding it back. Resetting preload and putting the anti roll to neutral I saw no difference in 60 ft.

4-link cars at our level can do without. I know several comp cars that have held records in recent years that also do not have them. I run it for down track safety in case I start writing checks I can't cash on the track.

Leon


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Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: Leon441] #1587078
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I won't go as far as to say they are not needed in some cases BUT they are a real help to those that either lack suspension experience or are afraid to make the changes to track tune their cars. Four links scare a lot of racers.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1587079
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I won't go as far as to say they are not needed in some cases BUT they are a real help to those that either lack suspension experience or are afraid to make the changes to track tune their cars. Four links scare a lot of racers.




I ran my 4-link for about 1/2 a season... then put it
on... my car did pick up in the 60' but ran level
either way... I know when I broke my small anti roll
I thought the car was gonna roll over... it was BAD

Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1587080
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I won't go as far as to say they are not needed in some cases BUT they are a real help to those that either lack suspension experience or are afraid to make the changes to track tune their cars. Four links scare a lot of racers.


I set mine up neutral, really has nothing to do with setting a 4 link. just another aid to keep both tires planted.I am going to put a set on my leaf spring car. no reason not to have them.

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everyone should have them



I agree! Anti roll systems reduce the amount of preload, if any, by a huge amount and force the energy (for the most part) equally to both tires. That has to be a good thing


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No anti-roll bar ladderbar set-up


1970 Duster
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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1587083
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No anti-roll bar four link set-up.

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1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Anti roll bars who has them? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1587084
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No anti-roll bar four link set-up.




Generally speaking ladder bars don't need them, but four links like them. I wonder how much or any the car would pick up with one?


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