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Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits #1580773 02/18/14 01:27 PM 02/18/14 01:27 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 OP super stock
aspenrt360 OP super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	Hey guy's i have never had one before but I want to get a fairly basic wideband o2 sensor set up I don't want to use a laptop I am more interested in a setup I can just mount in the car and monitor while driving. what are the better let's call them economical kits out there? Thanks 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: aspenrt360] #1580774 02/18/14 01:41 PM 02/18/14 01:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 I Live Here
Quicksilver440 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	Just my opinion ...but to be really useful you need to be able to data log rpm with A/F. I have one in my car and if I just watch the gauge... its all over the place...it can help...but you really need to be able to data log to get a lot of useful info out of it. That being said...I like my LM1

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Quicksilver440] #1580775 02/18/14 01:47 PM 02/18/14 01:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 OP super stock
aspenrt360 OP super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	thanks for the info I am just looking to get my feet wet with this. I have been happy with my tuning over the years but I know I am leaving a lot on the table so for now I want to start small. 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: aspenrt360] #1580776 02/18/14 02:13 PM 02/18/14 02:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,443 Indiana Y YO7_A66 master
YO7_A66 master Y Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,443 Indiana	You will get a few different ideas with the mountable gauge. They are usually in the $170-$210 range. I run the FAST #170634 kit. 8044311-170634.jpg (135 downloads) 1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger 340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.)

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Quicksilver440] #1580777 02/18/14 02:16 PM 02/18/14 02:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: Just my opinion ...but to be really useful you need to be able to data log rpm with A/F. I have one in my car and if I just watch the gauge... its all over the place...it can help...but you really need to be able to data log to get a lot of useful info out of it. That being said...I like my LM1 I run the same deal and although I don`t download and play back, it`s still a valuable tuning aid especially street driving. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Thumperdart] #1580778 02/18/14 02:30 PM 02/18/14 02:30 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 188 Middletown, Ohio J Joes66dart member
Joes66dart member J Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 188 Middletown, Ohio	I run the PLX with the multi gauge. I believe the webpage is www.plxdevices.com

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Joes66dart] #1580779 02/18/14 02:56 PM 02/18/14 02:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	This one will be on my car. You can datalog afr's with it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zeitronix-Zt-3-Z...c58&vxp=mtr Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: 72Swinger] #1580780 02/18/14 03:14 PM 02/18/14 03:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 38 Union grove,wi C cj391 member
cj391 member C Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 38 Union grove,wi	Aem in mine. Works alright, 180 dollars iirc

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: cj391] #1580781 02/18/14 03:29 PM 02/18/14 03:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	It's not cheap, mainly because it's an "all-in-one" - playback tach, pressure and A/F, but I recently ordered the Autometer 6894 DL tach and related stuff and can't wait to put it to good use. Their regular playback tach was one of the most useful "tools" I ever got. But having this all-in-one deal should help tuning quite a bit. Just have to read the instructions & learn how it make it all work. Autometer DL 6894 tach @ Summit

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Locomotion] #1580782 02/18/14 06:14 PM 02/18/14 06:14 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 OP super stock
aspenrt360 OP super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	hmm lots of different gear! I am looking at aem and innovative so far. 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: aspenrt360] #1580783 02/18/14 07:08 PM 02/18/14 07:08 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Those are the more "simple" units like you want.......... 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: aspenrt360] #1580784 02/18/14 08:58 PM 02/18/14 08:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,397 Carson City, Nevada Biginchmopar pro stock
Biginchmopar pro stock Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,397 Carson City, Nevada	Quote: hmm lots of different gear! I am looking at aem and innovative so far. Me too!

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Biginchmopar] #1580785 02/18/14 10:59 PM 02/18/14 10:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,809 North Dakota Azzkikrcuda top fuel
Azzkikrcuda top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,809 North Dakota	I run a Innovate LC-1 kit in my car, and my brother runs an AEM kit. Both work good.

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #1580786 02/18/14 11:15 PM 02/18/14 11:15 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,563 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,563 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Quote: I run a Innovate LC-1 kit in my car, and my brother runs an AEM kit. Both work good. I use the LC1 to run the closed loop on my EFI. It can also run a gauge plus you can hook it to a lap top and data log too. Best bang for the buck IMHO. Kevin

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Twostick] #1580787 02/18/14 11:33 PM 02/18/14 11:33 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	Daytona Sensors WEGO IV, best there is. Innovate is a crap shoot. Lot's of bad reviews out there, google both, you'll see. http://www.daytona-sensors.com/WEGO4.html I had a Dynojet wideband, it was OK, not real accurate. With any 02 sensor, any exhaust leaks will make it read lean so seal your exhaust prior to the sensor location. Also, I prefer to read a numerical print out, Daytona Sensors allows that option...Graphs sucks. RPMs is a must, and really cool to see where your shift points are, Throttle postion not so much. 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Adobedude] #1580788 02/18/14 11:52 PM 02/18/14 11:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Maybe I got a good one OR actually hooked it up properly.......... If a guy breaks a certain part THAT part sucks and usually it`s installer error but not always. My innovate gauge reads about the same as my plugs so I`m cool w/that then off to a track....... 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Thumperdart] #1580789 02/19/14 12:01 AM 02/19/14 12:01 AM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	I verify my WB on the dyno. 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Locomotion] #1580790 02/19/14 12:10 AM 02/19/14 12:10 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: It's not cheap, mainly because it's an "all-in-one" - playback tach, pressure and A/F, but I recently ordered the Autometer 6894 DL tach and related stuff and can't wait to put it to good use. Their regular playback tach was one of the most useful "tools" I ever got. But having this all-in-one deal should help tuning quite a bit. Just have to read the instructions & learn how it make it all work. Autometer DL 6894 tach @ Summit Wow cool tach! Didn't know they made that. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Adobedude] #1580791 02/19/14 12:15 AM 02/19/14 12:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: I verify my WB on the dyno. Get`s ya close but the track get`s ya there............dyno can`t simulate air forced into the carb like the street/track can. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Need input on wideband o2 sensor kits [Re: Thumperdart] #1580792 02/19/14 01:57 AM 02/19/14 01:57 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,892 Oregon hooziewhatsit master
hooziewhatsit master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,892 Oregon	I watched flebay for a while and got my LM1 box cheap (like $10). Then got the sensor and cables new from innovate. Then watched ebay again, and got the logging add-on thing pretty cheap. Then to make it really useful, I built my own manifold vacuum gauge and ran that into the logging port. Now it logs AFR/RPM/Manifold vacuum, so you can actually see how the AFR changes with changes in throttle position. Then I converted to electronic ignition and fixed all of the driveability issues I thought were fuel related If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.

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