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Data Aquisition.......Q #1576346 02/09/14 01:40 PM 02/09/14 01:40 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Which one is easiest for a bracket racer...Been trying to research them, and holy cow...They can be very complicated. None of them look easy to use or cheap. I am simple and just want to keep an eye on mainly the tune with different carburators. Looking for sothing either wifi or SD card... Need the following: water/engine temp fuel pressure oil pressure bat voltage rpm A/F Ratio? Been looking at this one: http://www.racingjunk.com/Gauges-Instruments/2120025/DataMaxx-Data-Logger-Bracket-Kit.html '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: Dragula] #1576347 02/09/14 02:04 PM 02/09/14 02:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,019 Finland mafo super stock
mafo super stock Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,019 Finland	I can recommend Rpm, customer service is absolutely superb I had problems with the oxygen sensor readings and Randy sent us a new "box" for free, after 5 years...talk about warranty http://www.rpmperf.com/ -65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: Dragula] #1576348 02/09/14 02:17 PM 02/09/14 02:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	If you are watching the tune you need the A/F feature... one of the important things in data logging is the read rate.. the one your looking at reads at 100 times per second... thats pretty good.. also you need to know how many more channels can be put in(more reading points) and how many analog inputs it can read(just in case).. on the down load,, thats more of a personal thing.. I run a data logger that you can read on the display and down load via cable to a PC... amount of data is very important also...I'm not very good on how much those data cards can hold but I do know its a lot if its simple data(not video)... like that company said... you will need to get info from time to time on how something works or mounts... if they are a good company they will be around for years to come.. the unit I have is already out of business so I'm on my own... next and maybe one of the more important things is cost of any read outs, probes and sensors.. some places bend you over on them... I got lucky on mine since I had a pile of them from working.. also the type of read out... most are "K" type now days and 0-5 volts on sensors Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 02/09/14 02:18 PM.

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1576349 02/09/14 02:37 PM 02/09/14 02:37 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca. boatracer572 super stock
boatracer572 super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca.	Racepak........ 8032913-IMG_5646.jpg (159 downloads)

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: boatracer572] #1576350 02/09/14 03:39 PM 02/09/14 03:39 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit OUTLAWD top fuel
OUTLAWD top fuel Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit	I just picked up a used Innovate LM-2 http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php Doesn't have a ton of channels, but will accept 4 analog inputs, plus RPM and A/F. Will accept voltage signals from electric gauges. It's pricey new, especially if you need to get the additional transducers, but I got mine on the cheap. Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death... 71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts 66 Belv. II - just a streetcar 88 Mustang - turbo LS beater

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: boatracer572] #1576351 02/09/14 03:39 PM 02/09/14 03:39 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: Racepak........ I have been looking at those for over a year, and I cannot figure their website out as far as what I need and the price...Heck, they even have a camera overlay option, but I cannot figure that out either. I will be putting a camera in this year as well.... http://www.jegs.com/i/WASPcam/095/9902/10002/-1 '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: Dragula] #1576352 02/09/14 05:21 PM 02/09/14 05:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI D dizuster master
dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	I think the AEM is the best bang for the buck. $500 includes harness and G meter. Sensors extra, but still way cheaper then a Racepack. I have the innovative ssi-4 in my car with a AEM wide band gauge. It was only $129 new, but requires the laptop in the car to data log. For as cheap as it is, it's worth leaving the laptop on the front seat in my opinion.

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: dizuster] #1576353 02/09/14 05:32 PM 02/09/14 05:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	When I was deciding on a logger,Race pak kept to the top of the mud. I bought the dash with the logger in the dash. Been buying sensors a little at a time because they are pricey.I really like the harness set up,everything plugs in 8033159-8.18.13059.jpg (152 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: hemi-itis] #1576354 02/09/14 07:27 PM 02/09/14 07:27 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: When I was deciding on a logger,Race pak kept to the top of the mud. I bought the dash with the logger in the dash. Been buying sensors a little at a time because they are pricey.I really like the harness set up,everything plugs in So how do you get the big connectors thru the fire wall? '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: Dragula] #1576355 02/09/14 09:32 PM 02/09/14 09:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 656 Kokomo, IN 540dust mopar
540dust mopar Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 656 Kokomo, IN	I have RPM, they have Wifi option which I have and like, their customer service is awesome but I have had to use it, that being said, I do like mine. No experience with Racepak they do look very appealing but a little more expensive. It is a pain to plug in if you dont have SD or the Wifi, so you are correct that those options are very desirable .

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: 540dust] #1576356 02/09/14 10:57 PM 02/09/14 10:57 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 487 D Dyno1 mopar
Dyno1 mopar D Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 487	There are racers with Racepaks and people who wished they did. Never regret buying the best.

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: Dyno1] #1576357 02/09/14 11:19 PM 02/09/14 11:19 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,396 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: There are racers with Racepaks and people who wished they did. Never regret buying the best. Been trying to figure out what the sportsman one is with a dash...Their website stinks. Sportsman $825 Dash, not sure which one, $? What else do I need?....if I can't figure out what the heck I need, I can't even compare them. What options does the system have? Which dash works with the sportsman, do I even need the Sportman if the dash has a logger? Very confusing... '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: Dragula] #1576358 02/09/14 11:37 PM 02/09/14 11:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	Quote: Quote: There are racers with Racepaks and people who wished they did. Never regret buying the best. Been trying to figure out what the sportsman one is with a dash...Their website stinks. Sportsman $825 Dash, not sure which one, $? What else do I need?....if I can't figure out what the heck I need, I can't even compare them. What options does the system have? Which dash works with the sportsman, do I even need the Sportman if the dash has a logger? Very confusing... I put a racepac and dash in my Duster with the plans of taking it out and installing it in the Daytona when its finished. I love it so much I'll buy another one for the Daytona but I won't buy another dash. I prefer gauges over it as that's what I am used to and can check easier going down the track. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: Dragula] #1576359 02/10/14 12:04 AM 02/10/14 12:04 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca. boatracer572 super stock
boatracer572 super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca.	If I had to do it all over again i would have bought the IQ3 logger dash for $1400 has all the same fetures as a sportsman plus built in GPS and 32 user defined channels (compaired to the sportsmans 6user defined) 8033706-IMG_5646.jpg (135 downloads) Last edited by boatracer572; 02/10/14 12:05 AM.

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: boatracer572] #1576360 02/10/14 02:03 AM 02/10/14 02:03 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 395 campbell river B.C M mopartoby enthusiast
mopartoby enthusiast M Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 395 campbell river B.C	I've got a computech sportsman kit with the lcd dash on order. I was leaning towards racepak but I cant put my faith into a company thats owned by msd. Im not knockin msd at all I run lots of their stuff. But they did just claim chapter 11, thats a little scary putting that kinda loot out not knowing how thats all going to play out.

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: mopartoby] #1576361 02/10/14 08:34 AM 02/10/14 08:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,404 Chesterfield Twp. Mi. J John Burdine pro stock
John Burdine pro stock J Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,404 Chesterfield Twp. Mi.	RacePak isn't going any where. you can use either IQ3 dash or UDX dash with the sportsman logger. if you have gauges, you don't need to add a dash.

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: John Burdine] #1576362 02/10/14 01:18 PM 02/10/14 01:18 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,106 Quebec, Canada D Diablo super stock
Diablo super stock D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,106 Quebec, Canada	I've been using the dataquest system from Altronics. Been happy with it and the prices seem fair compared to the other companies. Also the amount of add ons can be incredible. http://www.altronicsinc.com/data-recorde...n-system-1.html Doug

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: Dragula] #1576363 02/10/14 02:33 PM 02/10/14 02:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,373 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,373 Las Vegas	Racepak, no question. You will be able to use a Sportsman Racepak will do all you are looking for. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: Dragula] #1576364 02/11/14 01:53 AM 02/11/14 01:53 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	Quote: Quote: There are racers with Racepaks and people who wished they did. Never regret buying the best. Been trying to figure out what the sportsman one is with a dash...Their website stinks. Sportsman $825 Dash, not sure which one, $? What else do I need?....if I can't figure out what the heck I need, I can't even compare them. What options does the system have? Which dash works with the sportsman, do I even need the Sportman if the dash has a logger? Very confusing... I'm no expert,but if you get the sportsman,you can use the display dash if you want,but you don't have to.Just download the data to a laptop.If you get the logger dash,you don't use the sportsman because the logger is in the dash HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Data Aquisition.......Q [Re: hemi-itis] #1576365 02/11/14 10:05 AM 02/11/14 10:05 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa DodgeCharger master
DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	I have a Racepack. I don't have the display. I review my runs on a laptop in the pits. It cost about $1500. I think each sensor is like $250. I got two 02 sensors and a drive shaft sensor.

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