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Re: AMD vs GOODMARK sheetmetal E Body
[Re: domingo]
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11/28/08 05:23 PM
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Domingo were they Goodmark full quarter panels or the older skins? I know they had a problem with the skins at the gas cap area.
Sorry I just saw the pics I am on dail up and never waited to see the pics I see your are full quaters now.
so you had to elongate the holes in the cap or the quater?
Last edited by 340SIX; 11/28/08 05:33 PM.
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Re: AMD vs GOODMARK sheetmetal E Body
[Re: 340SIX]
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11/28/08 06:01 PM
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Domingo were they Goodmark full quarter panels or the older skins? I know they had a problem with the skins at the gas cap area.
Sorry I just saw the pics I am on dail up and never waited to see the pics I see your are full quaters now.
so you had to elongate the holes in the cap or the quater?
On the fuel cap stamping, overall its not right. Its not as crisp, nor as deep, and the holes are off. it needs to be fixed altogether. Its plain wrong. Its DEFINETLY the worst part on the whole panel.
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Re: AMD vs GOODMARK sheetmetal E Body
[Re: domingo]
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11/28/08 06:33 PM
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Domingo were they Goodmark full quarter panels or the older skins? I know they had a problem with the skins at the gas cap area.
Sorry I just saw the pics I am on dail up and never waited to see the pics I see your are full quaters now.
so you had to elongate the holes in the cap or the quater?
On the fuel cap stamping, overall its not right. Its not as crisp, nor as deep, and the holes are off. it needs to be fixed altogether. Its plain wrong. Its DEFINETLY the worst part on the whole panel.
Ok  I thought it was just the skins and not the new full ones.That the skins were not deep enough. If it is on the full ones what can be done short of this?
I don't remeber who's pics these are? They posted these in another thread.
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Re: AMD vs GOODMARK sheetmetal E Body
[Re: CHALLENGER_KEN]
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11/28/08 08:04 PM
11/28/08 08:04 PM
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AMD is 10 times better then Goodmark!!!
Ken
My first AND LAST purchase from Goodmark was last Spring... Reproduction wheelhouses for my Charger 500. Several serious problems, like in the attached picture. Tried to get a refund, but only got insulted by a rude jerk on the phone...
I will NEVER buy anything from Goodmark Industries again! 
XS
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Re: AMD vs GOODMARK sheetmetal E Body
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11/29/08 01:05 PM
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The AMD cowl for the Challenger was less the good either. There was several small problems such as drain holes in the wrong spot and dimples in the wrong place, but the windshield channel was bent very poorly.
I saw that thread on Cuda-challenger.com
how much did you have to bend the window chanel in a vise?
before and after pics would have been great
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Re: AMD vs GOODMARK sheetmetal E Body
[Re: 340SIX]
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11/30/08 03:31 AM
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The AMD cowl for the Challenger was less the good either. There was several small problems such as drain holes in the wrong spot and dimples in the wrong place, but the windshield channel was bent very poorly.
I saw thet thread on Cuda-challenger.com
how much did you have to bend the window chanel in a vise?
before and after pics would have been great
I never ended up using it. It was a pretty far off from the firewall. I thought about fixing it but it was quite the compund curve to get back in right.
I did put it on there and clamped it in all the appropriate places and the thing was all distorted to get the holes and edges to line up properly. I fixed my existing cowl and have it painted and ready to go on.
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Re: AMD vs GOODMARK sheetmetal E Body
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11/30/08 04:35 PM
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Like I said, if the original body panel is fixeable, Id definetly advice to take off the oruiginal body panel from the spot welds, fix it and then put it back on. It will definetly fit right and be more accurate.
In the end...the repro panels also need some fixing and massaging to be ready to install, so Id rather spend the time on an original body panel.
It only makes sense to use repro panels when the original panels are REAL JUNK.
BOTTOM LINE: By the looks of things seems that the AMD panels need less work than the Goodmark ones. The old Goodmark stuff is really bad in quality. The new full trunk floors, full quarter panels, etc. are OK but need some work, the AMD stuff seems to be slightly better.
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Flip Top Gas Cap does N OT fit
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11/08/09 11:21 AM
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About the problem with the fuel cap, that area is covered with the flip top but I did have to notch the 4 corners of the flip to cap housing to get a flush fit. This took all of 5 min and the housing fit perfect.
I bought the Flip Top Gas Cap for my 1970 Challenger and today I am trying to install it.
I bought the $125 complete set - The flip top cap,Trim ring and Screw set.
I am stumped because it just does not fit. It is as though the diameter of the Cutout where the current standard type Twist on Gas cap is slightly too small.
Could this be because my car has one of these goodmark fenders you are all talking about?
I bought this car in about a 90% restored condition several months ago from a person who had to sell the car. I am finishing the restoration as well as jazzing the car up with such things as re-uphosltering the seats in White (currently the interior is all Black), stripes,etc.
This Flip Top Gas Cap should have been a simple job but I can not figure out why it doies not fit.
Can anyone shed some light on this please?
Thank You
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Re: AMD vs GOODMARK sheetmetal E Body
[Re: domingo]
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11/08/09 12:17 PM
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This is some of the work required to get the lid to quarter gap decent on Goodmark full quarters. The line went about 9/16" out of whack as it went toward the dutchman panel. Other side had the same problem just not as drastic. Passenger fit everywhere else pretty decent but the driver was actually a little "tall" from the body line going down. The top was pretty good for height. Both sides needed some massaging at the rear valnce mounting points.
As for the trunk pan and extensions, they went in very nicely. Everything lined up with minimal effort and I was very pleased with them.
I replaced the front floor also with goodmark and it "fell" into place like factory. Very pleased with that.
Bought rear footwell pans and they turned out to be not correct for 70 model year. They advertised them 70-74 but the seat belt brackets were in the wrong place and they in general not the right shape. When I called about this, they told me they will fit and essentially eat it. So I ordered AMD pans and they were correct but the passenger side seat belt bracket was a little too far forward and the bottom of the pan where it curves up to the rocker was a very bad line, curvy and the bend started too early.
The trunk lid (AMD) is a very nice piece. It is very square and will take minimal effort to get ready for paint.
Also both full quarters need sectioned at the door jam to get a nice gap. Would reccomend leaving factory quarter piece welded to jamb and butt cut and butt weld new quarter to it.
After the amount of work it took to fix the quarters, I would very worried about what it might take to get their fenders to look right.
Hope this helps.
Jake
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Re: AMD vs GOODMARK sheetmetal E Body
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11/08/09 12:38 PM
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This is some of the work required to get the lid to quarter gap decent on Goodmark full quarters. The line went about 9/16" out of whack as it went toward the dutchman panel. Other side had the same problem just not as drastic. Passenger fit everywhere else pretty decent but the driver was actually a little "tall" from the body line going down. The top was pretty good for height. Both sides needed some massaging at the rear valnce mounting points.
As for the trunk pan and extensions, they went in very nicely. Everything lined up with minimal effort and I was very pleased with them.
I replaced the front floor also with goodmark and it "fell" into place like factory. Very pleased with that.
Bought rear footwell pans and they turned out to be not correct for 70 model year. They advertised them 70-74 but the seat belt brackets were in the wrong place and they in general not the right shape. When I called about this, they told me they will fit and essentially eat it. So I ordered AMD pans and they were correct but the passenger side seat belt bracket was a little too far forward and the bottom of the pan where it curves up to the rocker was a very bad line, curvy and the bend started too early.
The trunk lid is a very nice piece. It is very square and will take minimal effort to get ready for paint.
Also both full quarters need sectioned at the door jam to get a nice gap. Would reccomend leaving factory quarter piece welded to jamb and butt cut and butt weld new quarter to it.
After the amount of work it took to fix the quarters, I would very worried about what it might take to get their fenders to look right.
Hope this helps.
Jake
I used the Goodmark quarters and I didnt have to modify them at all to make em fit nice. No need to cut or section like you did?  I used the 72-74 syle.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rt=all&vc=1
I also used their deck filler panel which was too wide and I had to modify a bit at each end to make it narrower and align with the goodmark trunk lid as well.
I thought the goodmarke lid was JUNK. The quarters were OK as well as the deck filler which needed a minor mod. Also, the gas cap area is a problem area on the goodmarks as pointed above. I test fitted the flip top gas cap b4 paint and had to modify thta area a bit to make the flip top fit right.
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