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Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? #1554790
12/28/13 05:30 PM
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In getting ready to have my heads worked on I am trying to decide what kind of valves to buy. The engine will be a stock stroke 360, with a cam in the 220@.050 .510 lift range. The heads are 308's I am going to have some mild port work done on and opened up to 2.02 intake size. The donor was pretty high mileage so I am sure the guides need replacing anyway.

Hughes 11/32??? (HUGHES 1006/1013) The intake seems to have even more of a step down on the stem, and the exhaust has a pronounced tulip which I've read the 308 port responds well to. Is there a real benefit to 11/32 stems? I know they are lighter but this will not be a high revving race mill.

Mildon Megaflow 3/8??? (MILODON 45215/45225) Both valves have undercut stems, and do not appear to have a ski-jump that would need back cutting. Would there be any benefit to 3/8 stems wear/stability in the guide? Could I run "normal" umbrella seals at that lift? Thinking easier replacement / come in gasket sets for service later down the road.

Any other options??? Mopar Performance valves look to be about twice the cost of the Milodon. Anyone else I should be looking at? Kind of leaning towards the Hughes parts as I type this out.

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Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: Michael Ecks] #1554791
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It's hard to go wrong with PBM's for the money. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what Hughes is selling under their brand name. Just get .100 longer Chevy 2.02's or 2.05's in 11/32 stem.

Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: 5spdcuda] #1554792
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I think you are over complicating that build. I have run stock valves with more cam than that with no problems. so any aftermarket valve will be a step up.unless it's chinese garbage

Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: Quicktree] #1554793
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Quote:

I think you are over complicating that build. I have run stock valves with more cam than that with no problems. so any aftermarket valve will be a step up.unless it's chinese garbage




HAHAHA, I almost made "you're over complicating it" a fifth choice. I don't mind spending a little money on this build, but I can't build a new one every other year. The last engine I built for this car lasted 20 years and probably 200,000 miles. I just want to make sure that the parts will last and I will be happy with the results for a long time to come.

Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: Michael Ecks] #1554794
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I have friends who have broke the chinese Hughes valves, run far far away. Mopar performance you're paying for a name, not really added value.

I would opt for Manley or Ferrea.


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Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: Triple Threat] #1554795
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I have friends who have broke the chinese Hughes valves, run far far away. Mopar performance you're paying for a name, not really added value.

I would opt for Manley or Ferrea.




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Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: RoadRunnerLuva] #1554796
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I usually pay around 140-150 dollars for (8) Ferera valves off ebay when I go to a bigger valve in some of the heads I work on. pretty cheap insurance.


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Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: Michael Ecks] #1554797
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You need to watch the overall length of the valves to avoid complicating rocker geometry and spring installed height. The ones you mentioned are +.070". Longer valves are normally used to accommodate valve springs and lifts much higher than you will be using.

Milodon has a standard "Street" stainless valves that should fit the bill. ( 45640/45645 ) All of their stainless valves are manufactured in Argentina, which is good! I have heard many manufacturers use Argentina as their source.

Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1554798
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I usually pay around 140-150 dollars for (8) Ferera valves off ebay when I go to a bigger valve in some of the heads I work on. pretty cheap insurance.



Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: mopartoby] #1554799
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I use the stainless ones that Mancini sells.Never had a problem.Plus i have a brand new set for sale.

Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: Locomotion] #1554800
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Quote:

Milodon has a standard "Street" stainless valves that should fit the bill. ( 45640/45645 ) All of their stainless valves are manufactured in Argentina, which is good! I have heard many manufacturers use Argentina as their source.





I'm running the Milodon Street stainless exhaust valves. I've got 10k mi and 150-200 passes on my 360 and it just ran a new best in September. I've been kicking around the idea of putting 2.02s in the heads this winter and I plan to use the intakes if I do. I don't think you can beat them for the money.

Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: Michael Ecks] #1554801
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A Street 360?, yes IMO, you are overcomplicating, besides, you will likely step up to alum heads, anyway, so just send them to hughes, do a minor bowl/port/valve job,let them ponder the SS valve choice, give them a credit card, and focus on something else.


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Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: jcc] #1554802
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Your poll is broken there is no none of the above buttons.

Re: Valve choice for street 360. Why not a poll? [Re: 408Dust] #1554803
12/29/13 12:57 PM
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Michael Ecks Offline OP
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Your poll is broken there is no none of the above buttons.




Kind of where I was going with 4) "Get something else" which seems to won out anyway.

I've seen deals on Ferrea on Ebay, but ever since I saw the article on counterfeit peformance parts I've decided to stick with what I can get new from places like Summit, Jegs, and Hughes.

I think I am going to go with the Milodon Street Stainless option that seems to have gotten a few thumbs up here. Good catch by Locomotion on the overall length of the Mega-Flows I was looking at .

I may be over complicating a little but I tend to overbuild everything I make, just how I was taught by my mentors. With 20yrs/200,000K of street abuse on my last build I don't think is a bad thing.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction guys!


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