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wheelstands and 60' times #1551227
12/21/13 09:57 PM
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Do wheelstands effect 60' times ? Better to set up high or low. My car's currently 60ing at 1.37 and the bars are set low with about 4 - 5" under the wheels.
thx chryco


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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: chryco] #1551228
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All you can do is try it out and see what happens. Go up about a foot and see what the slip says. My car responds best to about a two foot wheel stand. Pro Stocks, on the other hand, need less
Isn't the track a little slippery this time of year? I grew up in the Grand Forks area, never had good traction from December till April!

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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: chryco] #1551229
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Mine 60's 1.28-30 When i set it up to do a bigger wheelie.If i tone it down it's around 1.35. So to those that say a big wheelie is wasted motion



Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: Viper469] #1551230
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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: ProSport] #1551231
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They do when the rear tires are tripping the beams... ...this one went out 120ft. Normally I'm 1.24 or so...it was a 1.33 60ft.

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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: Eric] #1551232
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I have to watch which tires trip the lights.. if its
all of a sudden slow its usually the rear tires

Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1551233
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I know that others will disagree but with my car bigger wheelstands equal better 60 ft! Don't know exactly why but that is just my experience!!
Mike

Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1551234
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Mine is best at about 8"-12". More than that it starts to slow. However traction does not seem to be an issue with my car.
Doug

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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: dvw] #1551235
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This car is lightweight, 2750 lbs. with me in it, it is nose heavy, over 55% on the nose and doesn't have a lot of power either 676 HP. It does 60 ft well, 1.27, with the chassis barely lifting the front tires Powerglide with 5.86 rear gears in this run I have to throttle stop it down to 10.00 and under 135 MPh t allow me to drive it legaly

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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: 70satelliteguy] #1551236
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I know that others will disagree but with my car bigger wheelstands equal better 60 ft! Don't know exactly why but that is just my experience!!
Mike




My car does this too!


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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: Brian Hafliger] #1551237
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I know that others will disagree but with my car bigger wheelstands equal better 60 ft! Don't know exactly why but that is just my experience!!
Mike




My car does this too!


I can tell you why, if your car is better in the 60' with the wheels up in the air you need the extra rotation to plant the tires and make it hook.

Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: Quicktree] #1551238
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Bigger wheelstands like this one below, slow down mine around .3 in the 1/4. Best Et's and 60ft's come from touching down just before 60ft.


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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: chryco] #1551239
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No, just set the wheelie bars (raise or lower)until the car is smooth in first gear you will have the quickest times when the car feels smooth and slow. It will not matter how high you go when everything is right.

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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: chryco] #1551240
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I see it as a situation of how quick total weight transfer can occur. A slow stocker doesn't have the power to weight to transfer quick enough to not have to use artificial weight transfer, like rear suspension reaction , soft front springs and travel. The more powerful the car, and the sharper the setup, (CG, suspension, applied power at the hit)the quicker all the weight gets on the rear, and the lower the wheelstand needs to be. If you watch a video of Billy Gliddens Mustang, you will see a car that has a better setup than most of the class he runs in. The car flat leaves with the fronts just off the ground, where others are pulling wheelstands to achieve the same thing, but not getting down track as fast. I suspect he learned a lot from another Glidden.

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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: gregsdart] #1551241
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When you leave and the front tires go straight up does that effect your reaction time. Mine pulls them straight up at the hit and I have been having a problem red lighting. Thanks...

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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: D-50] #1551242
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When you leave and the front tires go straight up does that effect your reaction time. Mine pulls them straight up at the hit and I have been having a problem red lighting. Thanks...




Yes it does I had the same problem that you have I was red lighting a lot.


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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: D-50] #1551243
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When you leave and the front tires go straight up does that effect your reaction time. Mine pulls them straight up at the hit and I have been having a problem red lighting. Thanks...


About .02 on my car.


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Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: 440W8 Duster] #1551244
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big wheelstands slow me down but i put that down to shifting early, (wheels in the air, select another gear), a nice long wheelstand gets me into the high 1.2's, no wheelstand & we looking at mid 1.3's.









Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: chryco] #1551245
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The higher the wheels are in the air, the quicker my Demon goes.


Re: wheelstands and 60' times [Re: qwkmopardan] #1551246
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"The higher the wheels are in the air, the quicker my Demon goes"

How many passes do you get out of a rear bumper Dan?

Mike


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