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Wet spark plug #1549465
12/17/13 09:30 PM
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Yesterday I got an early Christmas present from my fiancée. Some Taylor thundervolt 8.2mm plug wires for my 360 magnum in a 1991 dodge power ram 150. To give you some history on this engine it was purchased brand new by my father in 2003. He put it in a half ton 74 dodge power wagon and he only used it for hunting season. I acquired the engine in 2010 and he had only put 15 thousand miles on it.
Sine acquiring it I have put about 5 to 6 thousand miles on it.
I am running an Edelbrock rpm air-gap dual plane intake manifold and a quick fuel super street series 680cfm vaccum secondary carburetor. I run a 1 inch 4 hole phenolic carburetor spacer as well.
For ignition I have a mopar distributer from fbo systems. I am running a crane cams hi-6 cd ignition and a crane cams lx91 ignition coil, For plug wires I have taylor thundervolt 8.2mm wires, for plugs I run ngk bkr5e plugs gapped at .045. Compression of the engine is 9:0.1 And I always run eathanol free 91 octane fuel in it.
Yesterday I pulled every plug out to inspect how they were doing while I was putting these new taylor wires on. eery plug looked descent, the base of the plugs is a little dark, but the tip is grey/tanish color, I assume the base of the plug being darker indicates a rich idle or off idle?
Anyways when I got to plug number 7 it looked a little different then the rest of the plugs. It had the same black base, But the plug was shiny like it has been wet, It wasn't fouled tho. It just look likes it's been wet. Is this considered fuel wash? Do I need to lean the main jets down another step or two? I have done a compression test and I have 150 psi on every cylinder and I am 4000 feet above sea level. And I been told that those are great numbers for a compression test being 4000 feet above sea level.
Since the compression test checks out, I don't think I have a blown head gasket, and I don't see any oil in my antifreeze or antifreeze in my oil. So I don't think it is antifreeze that's soaking the number 7 cylinders plug. I don't think it is oil ether because it doesn't use any oil. It doesn't burn any oil or leak any oil. I changed the oil in it the last week of September and it hasn't used a drop according to the dip stick.
So my only guess is its the carburetor, maybe the main jets are too rich? I am running .064 main jets and .074 secondary jets with an 8.5hg power valve. Just trying to figure out whats going on in cylinder 7 to make the plug look wet.

Re: Wet spark plug [Re: pjc360] #1549466
12/18/13 12:54 AM
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As you have seen 7 of the 8 plugs are dull and dry, the shiny one probally has oil on it Now to figure where the oil is coming from, does the PCV, positive crankcase valve, feed into the number seven intake runner? If not try removing the carb. from the intake and look inside the manifold to see if you can see where the oil is coming from If it is not coming in the top of the intake manifold then it may be sucking oil through that intake valve seal or that intake port intake manifold gasket The last thing I could think of is a stuck set of piston rings but the compression test and the spark plug not fouling tells me that is probally not it Let us know what you find


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Re: Wet spark plug [Re: Cab_Burge] #1549467
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No I have my pcv hose going to the back of the carburetor.
And if it was oil, wouldn't I be seeing some blue smoke? Or at least a little bit of oil consumption? Like I said I changed the oil on the last week of September and have put about 1500 miles on this oil change and it hasn't used a drop of oil.

Re: Wet spark plug [Re: pjc360] #1549468
12/18/13 02:01 AM
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Put a new plug in the bad hole & see how it colors. You might checkout "breakin secrets" at www.mototuneusa.com. The rings may not have seated perfectly on that cyl


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Re: Wet spark plug [Re: RapidRobert] #1549469
12/18/13 07:53 PM
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I know it was broke in correctly, My father has built many many mopar engines and big block ford engines. And even tho he didn't build this engine, He certainly knew how to break one inn.
And the number 7 plug didn't always look like this, I have had the plugs in and out of this thing a million times in the last 6 months. And it never looked like that.
I will put a new plug in it tommarrow and check on it again in a few days and see how its looking. When I have the number 7 plug out should I turn the engine over a few times with the ignition off to blow out whatever might be in that cylinder?
I didn't put a new plug in cylinder 7 when I was installing my new plug wires because it wasn't fouled. And I hate having to take my new plug wires off and on already lol, I suck at pulling plug wires off, I normally break them. So I just bought some spark plug wire removal pliers and I will use them when removing these new wires.

Re: Wet spark plug [Re: pjc360] #1549470
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no, just toss the new plug in there & see how it colors


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Re: Wet spark plug [Re: RapidRobert] #1549471
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well I feel like a retard now....
I just noticed the plug looked wet because I must have put a little too much anti seeze on the threads of the plug. When I took the plug out this eveining I wiped my finger across the threads and it was grey.
And the tip of the plug isn't wet, just the threads and around the base where the threads are. I took a q-tip and cleaned up the threads on the plug and the threads in the spark plug hole.

Re: Wet spark plug [Re: pjc360] #1549472
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Re: Wet spark plug [Re: pjc360] #1549473
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I know it was broke in correctly, My father has built many many mopar engines and big block ford engines. And even tho he didn't build this engine, He certainly knew how to break one inn.
And the number 7 plug didn't always look like this, I have had the plugs in and out of this thing a million times in the last 6 months. And it never looked like that.
I will put a new plug in it tommarrow and check on it again in a few days and see how its looking. When I have the number 7 plug out should I turn the engine over a few times with the ignition off to blow out whatever might be in that cylinder?
I didn't put a new plug in cylinder 7 when I was installing my new plug wires because it wasn't fouled. And I hate having to take my new plug wires off and on already lol, I suck at pulling plug wires off, I normally break them. So I just bought some spark plug wire removal pliers and I will use them when removing these new wires.


Go buy some Dielectric(SP?) grease(automotive electric insulating grease) for the inside of spark plug boots and on the spark plugs and use it


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