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Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: Quicktree] #1540718
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what are you guys running for the return line going into the fuel cell?




Number 8.............


I meant is there some kind of tube going in the cell or just dumping it back in from the top. my arrow just dumps it back in.




No tube in mine but doesn`t seem to be a problem plus I installed a few foam blocks to help aeration..........


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Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: Thumperdart] #1540719
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I run a BG 250 pump, on a street car. this is the way I was told to run the return line. Before the return system was installed, the pump allways sounded like it was laboring, and very loud. Now with the return, you almost can't here it with the engine running. It holds a constant 7 lbs.

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Yes I live in Michigan, so there is still 1 light on
Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: 440dart] #1540720
11/28/13 10:49 PM
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Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: Quicktree] #1540721
11/28/13 10:58 PM
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what are you guys running for the return line going into the fuel cell?


On my Duster I had a 1/2 inch stainless tube fabricated to fit into the stock tank sending unit, it had a #8 steel JIC male fitting welded into the sender cap so I could use a #8 AN hose end to hook the return line from the pump onto it. It dumped into the bottom of the tank pointed away from the sump My new car dumps the return E85 fuel into the top of the tank, I should probally reroute it into the bottom drain, but I'm afraid of hitting that hose and fitting somehow, ending up with a possible fire or some other nasty consequence


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Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: 440dart] #1540722
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is that a dead head regulator used as a return?

Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: BobR] #1540723
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-8 feed and -10 return. That's what was recommended by BG for my stuff , and I wasn't gonna argue. HR240 pump and I forget the filter #........9000 maybe ? I called to ask why the bigger return line and was told that it provides for more consistent pressure because of no resistance in the return line. The regulator is after the carb by about 15" of line. I guess it works on paper.

Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: Quicktree] #1540724
11/29/13 01:41 AM
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is that a dead head regulator used as a return?




No , it's a bypass. I have the same one.

Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: 440dart] #1540725
11/29/13 10:26 AM
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I see low flow steel hydraulic fittings, should use tube 90,60, 45s on fuel systems. Also notice the settings are weird. Also I would not run the gauge during normal running. Just used it to set it up and then take out and plug it. It won't live like that.

Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: 440dart] #1540726
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I run a BG 250 pump, on a street car. this is the way I was told to run the return line. Before the return system was installed, the pump allways sounded like it was laboring, and very loud. Now with the return, you almost can't here it with the engine running. It holds a constant 7 lbs.




A regulator, bypass etc should never be mounted solid to the motor, because vibration will unset the regulator and cause cracks in your fittings hanging on the end like that...if you make power.

Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: Quicktree] #1540727
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is that a dead head regulator used as a return?




It's a return style regulator. 440Dart is my brother.

Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: Challenger 1] #1540728
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I run a BG 250 pump, on a street car. this is the way I was told to run the return line. Before the return system was installed, the pump allways sounded like it was laboring, and very loud. Now with the return, you almost can't here it with the engine running. It holds a constant 7 lbs.




A regulator, bypass etc should never be mounted solid to the motor, because vibration will unset the regulator and cause cracks in your fittings hanging on the end like that...if you make power.




That motor makes about 700 HP. You may be right about the solid mounting but it's been that way for 4+ years. He's had zero issues and he drives it on the street pretty regularly.

Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: BobR] #1540729
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I use a slightly different setup, cant say if it s better or not but it seems to work

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Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: mafo] #1540730
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Mine currently has a Mallory 4309 reg. that is boost referenced and a 3/8 feed and return to the tank, with a walbro 190 pump. It just dumps back in the top of the cell but I do have foam in it. Right now it is all plumbed in 3/8 fuel injection hose so NHRA frowns on that plus its a safety item too I suppose. I wanted to simplify it and upgrade the line at the same time but I guess I'll just buy twice the material and put it back the way it is.

Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: SLOW67] #1540731
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Mine currently has a Mallory 4309 reg. that is boost referenced and a 3/8 feed and return to the tank, with a walbro 190 pump. It just dumps back in the top of the cell but I do have foam in it. Right now it is all plumbed in 3/8 fuel injection hose so NHRA frowns on that plus its a safety item too I suppose. I wanted to simplify it and upgrade the line at the same time but I guess I'll just buy twice the material and put it back the way it is.




Are you saying its all rubber hose... change that out
and run tubing

Re: Return line fuel system? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1540732
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Mine currently has a Mallory 4309 reg. that is boost referenced and a 3/8 feed and return to the tank, with a walbro 190 pump. It just dumps back in the top of the cell but I do have foam in it. Right now it is all plumbed in 3/8 fuel injection hose so NHRA frowns on that plus its a safety item too I suppose. I wanted to simplify it and upgrade the line at the same time but I guess I'll just buy twice the material and put it back the way it is.




Are you saying its all rubber hose... change that out
and run tubing



Definately.


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