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Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body #1540604
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I have a street car that is a cruiser and I don't want to destroy the car for street use or damage the interior. The problem is with an E body dash pad every cage I see they cut through the dash for the front bars. Does anyone have an alternative way to build the cage?

Re: Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body [Re: DodgeCharger] #1540605
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The problem with the E-body is the dash protrudes so far back that if the down pillers are placed to clear the dash it limits the room to enter and exit the car.We have done a few similar with out cutting into the dash and use swing out bars and compound angles at the piller bar for easier access.The front bars can be attached to piller bars at a lower position,angled upward and leveled off passing through the firewall to the frame attaching points.The front bars are not part of the cage requirements but certainly help structuraly on a SS or car that likes to wheelstand.Don't confuse the upright(piller bars)which is a mandatory part of the cage with front bars that go to the front frame rails.

Re: Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body [Re: DodgeCharger] #1540606
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I'v ask this ?many times with the e-bodys do a search on (coming to a strip near you 25.5) and take a look at how he did his front hailo on his chally that's the way i'm in the process of doing mine...............

Re: Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body [Re: racerx] #1540607
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the next worst part of an ebody is the door bar goes right between the door handle and window crank


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Re: Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body [Re: sixpackgut] #1540608
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the next worst part of an ebody is the door bar goes right between the door handle and window crank




With a good plan and a string line you can drop the side bar to the floor pan early to clear those items,but you must tie it to the piller bar with a tube angled upward.If your using a swing out bar you can bend a radius in the down bar at the front to clear them also.

Re: Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body [Re: B G Racing] #1540609
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here is mine, probably not as strong as a straight bar.



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I didn't build this cage and I think with a little work it could be made straight and a little closer to the dash. I would have just went through the dash for a nice clean fit.

Re: Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body [Re: racerx] #1540611
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Thanks for all the responses. I did the search for the 25.5. I seen all I needed to see. I'm not going to do that to my car. I guess if I want to go faster I will have to build a 2nd car. I was hoping the NHRA would lower the roll cage requirement since many street cars today are runing faster than 9.99. It's safer to run these cars at the track than it is to run them on the street.
Back in the day you needed a roll bar at 11.99 then they changed it to 11.49 et. It's safer to run a car at 140 mph with a 5 point harness and roll bar than these guys running 120+ with a factory lap belt and no bar.

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Thanks for all the responses. I did the search for the 25.5. I seen all I needed to see. I'm not going to do that to my car. I guess if I want to go faster I will have to build a 2nd car. I was hoping the NHRA would lower the roll cage requirement since many street cars today are runing faster than 9.99. It's safer to run these cars at the track than it is to run them on the street.
Back in the day you needed a roll bar at 11.99 then they changed it to 11.49 et. It's safer to run a car at 140 mph with a 5 point harness and roll bar than these guys running 120+ with a factory lap belt and no bar.




that was my conclusion also. I sold the e body and don't miss it at all


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Re: Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body [Re: sixpackgut] #1540613
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i used a S&W roll bar to cage conversion on my cuda. its a little tight by the headlamp switch no difference getting in and out

Re: Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body [Re: Quicktree] #1540614
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here is mine, probably not as strong as a straight bar.





Tree is that a glass dash/plastic?It looks to be aftermarket.

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yes it is glass

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Where did you get the dash from? Thanks

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VFN if my memory is right

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Yes VFN make a fiberglass dash. I contemplated swapping out the one on my V-code Cuda and doing the bars right...I am still undecided and still running just mid 10's....If I were to go with a FG dash, it gives you way more flexibility for putting gauges in there...


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Yes VFN make a fiberglass dash. I contemplated swapping out the one on my V-code Cuda and doing the bars right...I am still undecided and still running just mid 10's....If I were to go with a FG dash, it gives you way more flexibility for putting gauges in there...


Thats what i'm thinking it gives me a chance to put gauges in the dash and clean it up a bit.....

Re: Looking for Pictures of NHRA legal Roll Cages E body [Re: DodgeCharger] #1540621
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The nicest that I have seen is on a Division 1 car. Unfortunately I do not have any photos of the car with the door open, but these photos may be helpful.

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