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lil disappointed #1528171
11/03/13 06:07 PM 11/03/13 06:07 PM
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took my 65 coronet to Tulsa yesterday in hopes of a 9 sec pass,but 10.19@132.5 was all I got.512 lowdeck,cleaned up sr's,solid flat tappet cam .611-.620,268-272,single plane m1,1050 dom 90 square,3800 conv 727,4.30 31.5x10.5wx15 m/t,back half ladder bars.weighs 2990 race ready.1.52 60ft,4.24 330,6.517 1/8 107.37,10.194 132.49.me thinks need more stall,at about 100ft out I feels like you hit the nitrous button.i shifted it a 7,000.

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Re: lil disappointed [Re: sam64] #1528172
11/03/13 06:20 PM 11/03/13 06:20 PM
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Definitely needs more converter, good work none the less!

11.48 @ 120 with a 1.80 60' 318, stock 1.88 heads, stock 904, Pump Gas, 13 lbs of boost.

9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
Re: lil disappointed [Re: sam64] #1528173
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took my 65 coronet to Tulsa yesterday in hopes of a 9 sec pass,but [Email]10.19@132.5[/Email] was all I got.512 lowdeck,cleaned up sr's,solid flat tappet cam .611-.620,268-272,single plane m1,1050 dom 90 square,3800 conv 727,4.30 31.5x10.5wx15 m/t,back half ladder bars.weighs 2990 race ready.1.52 60ft,4.24 330,6.517 1/8 107.37,10.194 132.49.me thinks need more stall,at about 100ft out I feels like you hit the nitrous button.i shifted it a 7,000.



None the less BEAUTIFUL CAR! And those times are nothing to sneeze at!
Re: lil disappointed [Re: Wv68charger] #1528174
11/03/13 06:22 PM 11/03/13 06:22 PM
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4500 converter 4.10 gear
Re: lil disappointed [Re: sam64] #1528175
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.1.52 60ft,4.24 330,6.517 1/8 107.37



look like it spun a little and recovered nicely

Good job

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Re: lil disappointed [Re: 67mprfan] #1528176
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60' should be around 1.39. If traction good and your 60' is consistent the converter is where I would go. Have you done any experimenting with your shift points? I would think that a 6500 shift point would get you down the track quicker.

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Re: lil disappointed [Re: dannysbee] #1528177
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60' should be around 1.39. If traction good and your 60' is consistent the converter is where I would go. Have you done any experimenting with your shift points? I would think that a 6500 shift point would get you down the track quicker.

only 6 passes with this engine combo,i can't feel it spin 60's all 1.51-52,but when it gets out 100ft it comes alive,at 6500 shifts it went 10.40.
Re: lil disappointed [Re: 1967Valiant] #1528178
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4500 converter 4.10 gear

I have 14.5x32x15 m/t that would equal changing gears that I can try.
Re: lil disappointed [Re: dannysbee] #1528179
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60' should be around 1.39. If traction good and your 60' is consistent the converter is where I would go. Have you done any experimenting with your shift points? I would think that a 6500 shift point would get you down the track quicker.



I have a similar set-up, but my weight is 3330# at the line and 493 CI. I shift at 6400, have 4.10 gear with 29.5 tire...ET10.4x @131. I footbrake and leave at 1500RPM...flash 4500+. Similar 60' times.

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Re: lil disappointed [Re: CHAPPER] #1528180
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i agree with most--- 4500 or so stall , and shift it lower = try 6500 . my 493 likes just under 6k !

is that the Hughes cam ??? i have that same one

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Re: lil disappointed [Re: 493_DART] #1528181
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i agree with most--- 4500 or so stall , and shift it lower = try 6500 . my 493 likes just under 6k !

is that the Hughes cam ??? i have that same one

yes it's hughes cam and their 1.5 rockers.
Re: lil disappointed [Re: sam64] #1528182
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Is it loading up do to much accellerator squirter or loading up from the carb.? I've seen similar results with to much squirter, ended up swapping out the rear 50CC pump and pump arm to a 30 CC pump and arm and went down to # 29 or #31 squirters, depending on winter or summer racing It should really snap off the line, even with that converter

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Re: lil disappointed [Re: Cab_Burge] #1528183
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Maybe it's just me but I would be looking more at 5000-5200 on the converter...

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Re: lil disappointed [Re: Eric] #1528184
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Maybe it's just me but I would be looking more at 5000-5200 on the converter...




Re: lil disappointed [Re: sam64] #1528185
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Unless you are running out of RPM's at the end of the track keep your gear. I would even consider going to a lower gear with those tall tires.
Your converter should stall around where your motor makes peak torque. Your mph is low for a 9 second pass so you will have to make your 60ft count. With those big tires and a light car you should be able to do it. What type of rear suspension are you running? My buddy runs 1.39 60fts and his car is only a 10.50 car.
Re: lil disappointed [Re: KOS] #1528186
11/03/13 08:46 PM 11/03/13 08:46 PM
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Maybe it's just me but I would be looking more at 5000-5200 on the converter...








I agree also, 5000+ custom built converter for your combo, keep your 4.30's, need to get that 60 foot down and the rest of the ET will come down with it.
Nice car and it runs good, you will easily hit 9's as you've only made 6 passes so far.

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Re: lil disappointed [Re: ProSport] #1528187
11/03/13 09:44 PM 11/03/13 09:44 PM
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The part that gets me is it wakes up 100 feet out
How's the timing curve set up? Are you data logging or reading plugs?? At that weight the 60 should be low 1.4 or maybe high 3's

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Re: lil disappointed [Re: ProSport] #1528188
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i'm only leaving at 2200 on the foot brake,its starts pushing with anymore rpm.the 31.5 tire on it now is way shorter than the 32's I had on it.cab,i don't think it's loading up it doesn't bog per say.it almost feels like when you hit passing gear,it pulls that much harder at about 100 feet out.i forgot to take my gopro would been helpful to see what the tach showed.time to put it to bed for winter.
Re: lil disappointed [Re: hemi-itis] #1528189
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How's the timing curve set up? Are you data logging or reading plugs?? At that weight the 60 should be low 1.4 or maybe high 3's



Definitely needs more convertor. We have a 5200 ATI; on a good track 60' is in the low 1.30's. MPH is an idication of HP, so it looks like it is a little down on power. Tune for max MPH, lower the shift point to 6500 and we only run 32 degrees timing (all in at idle). With an efficient combustion chamber you don't need a whole lot of timing. Good luck. Beautiful car!


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Re: lil disappointed [Re: sam64] #1528190
11/03/13 10:04 PM 11/03/13 10:04 PM
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like hemiits asked,what is your timing curve and and like Cab said to much fuel at the hit will make it lazy especially if your timing is coming in slow

my old combo with a solid cam and 4000 converter would 60 in the 1.4s at 3700lbs. a 315 drag radial would be faster

I use to shift my standard port solid cam combo at 5800 and it ran 6.70s a lot heavier than you. your converter is fine. ports are to small

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