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What stockpile of parts do you have for your build Dave. You've gone through so many parts for sale over the past years that I've lost track of your present project.

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I bought a r5p7 358 and ran it for most of the summer. Previous owner had trouble due to some wrong rocker arms. I had a mishap in the shop that ended up bad.

Found a deal on a 440 EEI R5P7 and never looked back.

Leon

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What a shame that someone brings this dead horse to the top ...once again.

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Wonder what ever happened to the build that was supposed to take place this fall? Haven't seen any post. If anyone one remember's, i had 1 of these blocks that didn't quite work out. I really would like to see this block work out.

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Wonder what ever happened to the build that was supposed to take place this fall? Haven't seen any post. If anyone one remember's, i had 1 of these blocks that didn't quite work out. I really would like to see this block work out.

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looks like this is a major red flag not even kent ritter him self the small block [[[GOD]]] with all his resource's can get one running. i found more problem yesterday I fill like giving up...if I run a cross a R BLOCK that will fit my build I will make the change .....just a shame after spending 7000 dallors on this block it is still pucking junk

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Bob, I fully intend on doing a drag type engine but right now head choice is the issue at large. I'd like to do a medium inch W2 that could be plugged into the Duster, with a trans change, for some of the bracket races when there is are no class events going on. We know the Duster is a very efficient chassis and we have a spare trans that is not as costly to operate as the class trans. This would put one of the blocks actually out there for many to see rather than taking our word on some dyno session. We all know how doubtful Moparts members seem to be.

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Holgar,that's what I want to hear We would be willing to help you with this project if your too busy.

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Bob, Be reminded that this engine will not have spark plug wires in the valve covers. Still want to help?

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I would love to help. We have many engines without sparkplug wires in the valve covers.You build the bottom half and maybe I'll do the top half with Indy heads.

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Obviously, it is no small task to assemble and finance a highend drag style build, but I wouldn't consider using the most important piece in the equation (the block), that hasn't been proven in that environment.

If the foundation of a project that could top $40,000 dollars is compromised for whatever reason, only a fool would roll the dice and until I see a block become available that can support a 1000+hp smallblock at 10,000rpm, forget it......

I understand there are more people building low HP/RPM engines, but a number of features of this block are directed at serious efforts. W2s in all their incarnations, W5s, Indys, Edelbrocks, etc., are generally used in low powered pieces that could easily survive with stock blocks, replacement blocks, or R3s.

Any block should be able to survive the typical 5-700hp, in the 7000rpm "bracket" range, unless it's JUNK. What this community needs is a foundation that is up to the task of 800 to 1000+hp at 8000rpm and up, that is ABLE TO BE PURCHASED WITHOUT AN EXTENDED WAIT PERIOD!!!! And not just smallblocks, but also big and Hemi blocks.

R3s have been built in that fashion, including the one in my garage, but an improved and updated deal, that is available at the drop of a dime and reasonably affordable would be a welcome addition. It's bad enough that we can't pick up the phone and order a NEW W8, or a block to make a large cubic inch P5 and if it weren't for CHEVY RACERS(!!!)who need them for THEIR heads, new 420 intakes would still be on the endangered list.

Every 15 minutes, Ford and GM racers benefit from a new cylinder head and a new block in any number of materials, in multiple deck heights, bore spacings, cam size/location, pan rail configuration and any number of other options.

Understandably, this is not economically possible in the MOPAR world, but take a look at what's going on with Pontiac racers. They now have access to a couple KILLER blocks and heads, that in many cases, are superior to whats readily available to MOPAR folks. I don't see legions of Pontiac racers in staging lanes and parking lots around the country, yet they are benefitting from quality pieces for advanced builds.

THIS....is an embarrassment!!! How we cannot get a single manufacturer to offer a single highend block, with a variety of options and a "pro-port" (raw) version of a single, modern cylinder head design (except the P5).......is ridiculous.

I give alot of credit to people like Koleno and Ritter for trying to fill the void to some extent, but the issues that arise just about every time something is released on the block & head front......has reached LAUGHABLE proportions.

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Another factor I guess is the fact these blocks were designed primarily for the P7 head, the wedge style blocks are basically a compromise.
Jim, I understand where you are coming from, the only way I see it happening is a serious racer who is cashed up and makes it happen for their own program.

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I am in the same boat Jim, my ambitions are far ahead of my wallet! lol

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I shoulda' been a criminal....

I wouldn't be in this predicament.

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WOW BOB that looks like a great dill for kent and his block .. like I said before im not trying to kill this thing just trying to warn the people....and they might not get any sport from kent.... there are major problem most.. beyond a normal build... some one like you that is respected in the mopar world would be what it takes to get this ironed out... I don't know how the people that spent there hard earned money... became the bad guy

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I had early on discussed the issues with rickraw.He wanted to use the block but in the end had no choise but return it.I would never dismiss those who spent hard earned dollars and had issues.I think the issues could have been handled better buy the supplier.
We would like to see a affordable block for the small block racers and would be glad to help develope it into a viable program.Either working with Holgar whom we respect or if Kent wanted to donate a block we would give it our best shot to help.

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Ritter has the money to make things right with this block I just don't think he wants to spend the extra money to make it work right put it off on the who ever buys one

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Sales will be minimal untill buyers feel they are getting a quality and usable product.If he wants to successfully market this block,buyers have to be confident before purchasing a unproven or untested product.We feel that if all issues can be resolved and there is a proven performance and reliability demonstrated than he will have hit a homerun and we can all benifit.I will await a response or more info from Holgar(sixpakbee)since he has an in with Kent.

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In all seriousness, are the issues you've tackled going to be addressed in Kent's blocks or are you kind of the last Mohican in this situation?

What's the power level you're shooting for? I wanna know the threshold of this thing?

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I will stop by the shop this week and se how things look. It is a 468ci. 245CNC Indy headed deal. I think around 12:1 if I recall correctly. Sorry for the grey info, it really has been a while since Dad and I were talking about the details on this unit. It is a solid roller deal with specs around 277/284 @ .050" I think, I REALLY JUST NEED TO SIT DOWN AND MAKE A BUILD THREAD! I might find the time in the Christmas season. That should give you a sorta kinda idea of the power that is being asked from this unit. The block does look like a well built piece, just a lot of stuff that is placed bad, and not thought out very well. Thankfully we have a great machine shop that we work with, and they know how to use their equipment well to correct the problems.

As for head gaskets, I'll get you the for sure details on them. This block may be different than yours WHITEDART. I know of another iron block that is up hear and it's not useable because of a different set of problems.

I am hoping this whole deal can be sorted out to supply us Mopar dude's with a good block with availability. I got a 48 degree 9.600" siamezed R3 block about 6 months ago for a customer. I recently started as a new car salesman at a local Dodge dealer. It's our slow time so I went over to the parts guy and gave him the same part number and it comes up as discontinued. I don't know what the deal is there, I hope Mopar sorts its stuff out and starts making them again.

Thanks

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I recently started as a new car salesman at a local Dodge dealer. It's our slow time so I went over to the parts guy and gave him the same part number and it comes up as discontinued. I don't know what the deal is there, I hope Mopar sorts its stuff out and starts making them again.

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-Kenny

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I finished an edelbrock headed 434 using a 59* ritter iron block early this year. Other than lack of counterweight clearance, [was clearanced by ritter for a 30 pound Winberg crank like he would use], only a few other minor issues. Engine was beat on all year with no issues. Not the most powerful engine, but not bad for eddy RPM heads. 3300 pound Dart. Car not that heavy but driver not that light. Ran 6.35 at 109 mph.

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I recently started as a new car salesman at a local Dodge dealer. It's our slow time so I went over to the parts guy and gave him the same part number and it comes up as discontinued. I don't know what the deal is there, I hope Mopar sorts its stuff out and starts making them again.

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-Kenny

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try to order any R3 number and it comes up "NS1" which means they are not making them anymore. you can't even put an order in to show demand, it just spits it back at you. they hit this status last June.

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I finished an edelbrock headed 434 using a 59* ritter iron block early this year. Other than lack of counterweight clearance, [was clearanced by ritter for a 30 pound Winberg crank like he would use], only a few other minor issues. Engine was beat on all year with no issues. Not the most powerful engine, but not bad for eddy RPM heads. 3300 pound Dart. Car not that heavy but driver not that light. Ran 6.35 at 109 mph.

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I have been to Accelaquarter one day in my life and I saw your car there, good runner for the combo. Didn't know it was a Ritter block

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Actually not my car. A good friends car. Mine is the LeBaron or white Demon depending on the day you were there. The Demon has a 418 C.I. sm block, stock block and cyl. head combo that runs very well for what it is. Also has a flat tappet cam and burns gasoline. Weighs 3050 pounds. Even with 1875 passes, it still ran low 6.2s at 109mph late this year. When engine was new and fresh it went 6.09 at 111 mph. The Lebaron is a 512 C.I. BBM, World block, Indy SR head engine with the same grind flat tappet camshaft, [Racer Brown STX-22], that's in the sm block in the Demon. It has been 5.45 at 126 mph. Weighs 2560 pounds.