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Who to use for a legit fender tag? #1519177
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My car is now apart for paint and tag has rust in the date area and last few of the vin. Would like new tag to be sprayed with new paint. Who besides you know who is recommended? Thanks

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: cmansell] #1519178
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There is no such thing as a "Legit" reproduction tag. The only "Legit" tag is the one the factory installed.

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1519179
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I used that term because the car matches the title, build sheet, numbers on the body and the tag you would build by doing a visual inspection of the car would be the same as the tag now other than the tire size. No funny business and wouldn't want my info spread across the net.

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: cmansell] #1519180
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I used that term because the car matches the title, build sheet, numbers on the body and the tag you would build by doing a visual inspection of the car would be the same as the tag now other than the tire size. No funny business and wouldn't want my info spread across the net.


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I repeat: There is no such thing as a "Legit" reproduction tag. The only "Legit" tag is the one the factory installed.

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1519181
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Let me put it another way. There are people here who know how to tell a repop from an original (for the record I am not one of them, but I have some ideas about what they are looking for). Once a car is known to have a non-original tag (especially if you change anything like tire size) word will get out if the car is on the market and it will be suspect.

I might be inclined to put a tag in that says something like, "Original tag rusty" or something like that.

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1519182
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Clean and repaint the one you have.

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: stumpy] #1519183
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would be the same as the tag now other than the tire size. No funny business




BTW, changing tire size (or ANYTING else) IS "funny business"

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and wouldn't want my info spread across the net.




Of course you wouldn't, which is likely the reason you or your cars specific info hasn't been posted yet.

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: stumpy] #1519184
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I tried a wire brush and it is so thin and crusty in a few spots I was making it worse. I'll keep the original and besides this is my 43rd mopar and I'm pushing 60 so this will be my last resto. I'll leave all the papers for my wifes next husband.

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: cmansell] #1519185
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Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: BDW] #1519186
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Try here

http://www.datatags.com




The boards are filled with pictures of bad tags that guy has produced. I don't need to go any further than my car to find one. Seems like a lot of money for a bad part.


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1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs.
Over 2,000 thanks to you!
Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1519187
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Here's a made tag that I really like (the one on the right, the other is the original):

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1519188
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They are some different results from that vendor, he may be my best choice.

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1519189
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I used that term because the car matches the title, build sheet, numbers on the body and the tag you would build by doing a visual inspection of the car would be the same as the tag now other than the tire size. No funny business and wouldn't want my info spread across the net.


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I repeat: There is no such thing as a "Legit" reproduction tag. The only "Legit" tag is the one the factory installed.





Then lets take this just a little farther....

The only "Legit" parts on any car are the one's the factory installed


Russ

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: max_maniac] #1519190
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I used that term because the car matches the title, build sheet, numbers on the body and the tag you would build by doing a visual inspection of the car would be the same as the tag now other than the tire size. No funny business and wouldn't want my info spread across the net.


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I repeat: There is no such thing as a "Legit" reproduction tag. The only "Legit" tag is the one the factory installed.





Then lets take this just a little farther....

The only "Legit" parts on any car are the one's the factory installed


Russ




I tend to agree with this ... even though all the replacement parts may have produced as replacement parts for Chrysler (or who ever) and sold through the parts dept, they are not original.

Replacing everything, even with with parts that came in a box with MOPAR or CDPD on it doesn't make it more "original".

Makes the survivor cars even more important to the hobby(?) vs all the ones "restored" with replacement parts.


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Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: VL21] #1519191
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Puttin' on the foil in Charles...
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The difference is that a replacement hose isn't anything other than a replacement hose. It has nothing to do with the car's authenticity. Whether we like it or not, the value of a collectible car is usually tied to both it's authenticity and how it was equipped from the factory. A replacement tag calls both of those areas into question.

I have the original tag and a copy of the IBM card for our 64 Valiant 'vert, and the original tag and a copy of the broadcast sheet for my 73 wagon. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending upon your point of view), no one will ever care that I have such documentation for 2 undesirable cars.


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Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: cmansell] #1519192
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I tried a wire brush and it is so thin and crusty in a few spots I was making it worse. I'll keep the original and besides this is my 43rd mopar and I'm pushing 60 so this will be my last resto. I'll leave all the papers for my wifes next husband.




you took a wire brush to a thin and rusty fendertag ... are you crazy ???

Evaporust , soak it and then paint it . I would just leave the original tag on it ... assuming you didn't destroy it with the wire brush.

Like Scott said there is no legit tag... is the rest of the car so bad that a shiny new tag is going to make it look better ?

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: JohnRR] #1519193
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It's your car and I sure can't blame you for wanting it to look pretty. If there's anybody out there that can make a good copy of it I don't see anything wrong with that, especially if you don't change anything and keep the old tag with the car. It's probably the folks who add or change options and try to represent as original that make everyone suspicious of a new tag.

Now where is that 73 hemicuda convertible that I 'almost' bought a coupla years ago???

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: Silverbullet2] #1519194
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Have seen fender tags stolen at car shows, not a bad idea to keep the original in a safe place and have a repop on the car. AG Backeast (www.datatags.com) is your best source.


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Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: Rhinodart] #1519195
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Thanks, that's who I'll call. I knew them and gts but wanted to see if anyone new was out there with a good reputation.

Re: Who to use for a legit fender tag? [Re: VL21] #1519196
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Documentation and parts are NOT one in the same. Fender tags, broadcast sheets, etc. Regardless of what material they are made from or how they are attached to the car are not "parts".

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