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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149265
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looks good.. why didnt you just go with the tube bungs like the prior posters?? cost?


11.48 @ 120 with a 1.80 60' 318, stock 1.88 heads, stock 904, Pump Gas, 13 lbs of boost.

9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149266
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Or should it go to the FBI or maybe to China, Seams to me like this is a blatent infrigment of a patent
One guy builds his own, maybe OK maybe not. Sharing with others kinda
If people are to profit( improved 60ft ) from this thread, sorry, I would be peeved if I was the original manufacturer.






I'm not selling them, nor making them for other people. Just showing guys how much fun I have been having in my shop.




But what if you 60's go down .15 over the caltracs version from them then you have everyone wanting a set and you could just take donations for like $349.99

Nice Work...


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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: topfueldart] #149267
11/28/08 02:06 PM
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looks good.. why didnt you just go with the tube bungs like the prior posters?? cost?




Yes. 24" is the length these came in and the length I needed. I thought these came threaded on both ends, so it would have been real easy. Now I have to thread one end, but that's no real biggie either. I did not trust my ability to weld on a tube bung with out jacking at least one of them up. lol


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Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A
Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya
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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149268
11/28/08 07:08 PM
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here's the set i built, the transfer link material is on back order from the chassis shop. (1 1/4" X .125 wall 4130 chromoly). i got all the dimensions from actually measuring a set that pro max had on display at the mopar nats. i drew it up on shop cam & cut them out at work, on the cnc machining center, during lunchtime, of course!

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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: Flite_727] #149269
11/30/08 12:05 AM
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Cool.

This is what mine look like today. I added a triangular brace to the back of the square tune for additional strength. I also tapped the other ends of the tubes today.



Rod ends I bought locally:


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Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A
Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya
RMRW 2018
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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149270
11/30/08 04:11 AM
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looks good.. did you make the second set of adjustment holes above or below the ones from the measurements clutch gave you?


11.48 @ 120 with a 1.80 60' 318, stock 1.88 heads, stock 904, Pump Gas, 13 lbs of boost.

9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: Flite_727] #149271
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here's the set i built, the transfer link material is on back order from the chassis shop. (1 1/4" X .125 wall 4130 chromoly). i got all the dimensions from actually measuring a set that pro max had on display at the mopar nats. i drew it up on shop cam & cut them out at work, on the cnc machining center, during lunchtime, of course!




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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149272
11/30/08 09:22 AM
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I made a set for my wreck. Make SURE you get some good shocks too. I tryed mine out at the track with the old set of stock shocks I'd been running with my pinion snubber. I'm lucky I'm still here to type this. I've since bought and installed a set of Rancho 9000's from Calverts racing.Dave

Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: quickd100] #149273
11/30/08 10:28 AM
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I made a set for my wreck. Make SURE you get some good shocks too. I tryed mine out at the track with the old set of stock shocks I'd been running with my pinion snubber. I'm lucky I'm still here to type this. I've since bought and installed a set of Rancho 9000's from Calverts racing.Dave



i understand the need for a good shock, but could you elaborate on the behavior of your truck before the shock change ?

Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: topfueldart] #149274
11/30/08 12:35 PM
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looks good.. did you make the second set of adjustment holes above or below the ones from the measurements clutch gave you?




They are above.


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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149275
11/30/08 01:01 PM
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Jim, nice work duuude.. Do you plan on lowering your truck or are you leaving it kinda close to stock height.. I have a few minor problems with mine there. I'm gonna make some changes soon, also a post on here when I get some pics.

You get them on the truck yet? You've seen my vid in the sig right???



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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: moparx] #149276
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I made a set for my wreck. Make SURE you get some good shocks too. I tryed mine out at the track with the old set of stock shocks I'd been running with my pinion snubber. I'm lucky I'm still here to type this. I've since bought and installed a set of Rancho 9000's from Calverts racing.Dave



i understand the need for a good shock, but could you elaborate on the behavior of your truck before the shock change ?




The old shocks topped out at the hit of the throttle. It spin, slid, and porpoised the entire length of the track. Without some control on the extension or compression of the shocks, you'll see zero weight transfer to the rear. I spent my whole time during each pass just trying to keep it off the rail and trying to keep it semi-straight. I tryed 5 passes that day, made it to the end under full power 3 times. I should have aborted those 3 also, I was a danger on the track. Dave

Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: KatFysh] #149277
11/30/08 11:51 PM
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Jim, nice work duuude.. Do you plan on lowering your truck or are you leaving it kinda close to stock height.. I have a few minor problems with mine there. I'm gonna make some changes soon, also a post on here when I get some pics.

You get them on the truck yet? You've seen my vid in the sig right???





Thanks!

Yes, my truck is lowered. Axle flip, frame notch, etc etc. I have a pic of an axle flip lowered Ranger with caltracs and I have been studying every inch of it.

I have definitely seen your video. Makes me all the more anxious to hit the track!


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Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A
Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya
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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149278
12/01/08 08:21 AM
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Just to shorten up my situation, my body bumpers that are mounted to the bed support frame/cross member are bottoming out on the topside of the axle housing. I have maybe 3/4" clearance between them and the shocks are nearly compressed with it sitting idle on the garage floor.. Make sure you look at that too.



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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: quickd100] #149279
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I made a set for my wreck. Make SURE you get some good shocks too. I tryed mine out at the track with the old set of stock shocks I'd been running with my pinion snubber. I'm lucky I'm still here to type this. I've since bought and installed a set of Rancho 9000's from Calverts racing.Dave



i understand the need for a good shock, but could you elaborate on the behavior of your truck before the shock change ?




The old shocks topped out at the hit of the throttle. It spin, slid, and porpoised the entire length of the track. Without some control on the extension or compression of the shocks, you'll see zero weight transfer to the rear. I spent my whole time during each pass just trying to keep it off the rail and trying to keep it semi-straight. I tryed 5 passes that day, made it to the end under full power 3 times. I should have aborted those 3 also, I was a danger on the track. Dave



i thought the shock being too short would be a problem.glad you kept it shiney side up ! how much longer shocks did you end up with ? also, how stiff on extension did you go ?

Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: KatFysh] #149280
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Just to shorten up my situation, my body bumpers that are mounted to the bed support frame/cross member are bottoming out on the topside of the axle housing. I have maybe 3/4" clearance between them and the shocks are nearly compressed with it sitting idle on the garage floor.. Make sure you look at that too.




As it sits on the floor, I have 5"+ of travel before the diff housing hits the bumpstops. IIRC, the shocks are sitting at mid stroke in their travel. I may need to go to a longer shock, but I will only know that after a few runs.

A friend on another site with a healthy BBF in a cal-trac'd F100 has a video of his rear end violently hopping off the ground at the stab of the throttle. Pretty wicked looking. He finally got it to settle down with much firmer shock settings.


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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149281
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I have the adjustable Rancho's. I noticed this after I made the adjustment from #5 setting to #7. Not sure if it was like that before the adjustment er not. Sounds like you won't haveta worry 'bout it though..



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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149282
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Cool.

This is what mine look like today. I added a triangular brace to the back of the square tune for additional strength. I also tapped the other ends of the tubes today.



Rod ends I bought locally:





Looks good, hopefully they work well for you.


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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: _G_] #149283
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One side done. The old spring bushings came out much easier than I thought they would.



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Re: Homebuilt Caltrac/Slide-a link copy [Re: BBR] #149284
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Looking great... Did you take the bushings out to replace them, or are you putting solid aluminum inserts in them or what?


11.48 @ 120 with a 1.80 60' 318, stock 1.88 heads, stock 904, Pump Gas, 13 lbs of boost.

9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
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