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Replacement calipers for Chally #1492802 08/29/13 11:35 PM 08/29/13 11:35 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 469 Hawaii D Dodgeballs OP mopar
Dodgeballs OP mopar D Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 469 Hawaii	All my cars seem to have brake issues... I have been going crazy trying to figure out my soft pedal problem with my Challenger forever. Put in some reman calipers to no avail. Maybe slightly better. Bench bled the master and second master on the bench, in the car, etc. Bled the brakes at least 5 different times. I'm wondering if the calipers are just bad. Any recommendations on a reman or new caliper? Thanks.

Re: Replacement calipers for Chally [Re: Dodgeballs] #1492803 08/29/13 11:40 PM 08/29/13 11:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,947 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,947 Grand Prairie,Texas	Are you sure the rear brakes are good and the pads and shoes aren't heat glazed?

Re: Replacement calipers for Chally [Re: stumpy] #1492804 08/29/13 11:57 PM 08/29/13 11:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 469 Hawaii D Dodgeballs OP mopar
Dodgeballs OP mopar D Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 469 Hawaii	I'm not sure. But the fronts won't even lock up.

Re: Replacement calipers for Chally [Re: Dodgeballs] #1492805 08/30/13 12:06 AM 08/30/13 12:06 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	Do you have power brakes? If so , the problem is the booster. it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: Replacement calipers for Chally [Re: Dodgeballs] #1492806 08/30/13 01:08 AM 08/30/13 01:08 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,537 PORT ALBERNI , BC., CANADA superwrench master
superwrench master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,537 PORT ALBERNI , BC., CANADA	I'll stick my neck out here and suggest that the pads/rotors have NOT seated or run in. That will cause a poor pedal and almost non-functional front brakes. Pad quality and rotor surface are key here. Cheap stuff.....poor brakes. Not saying you got cheap parts, but it could factor into the problem. Just like turning the rotors and still using the same pads....NO BRAKES!!!

Re: Replacement calipers for Chally [Re: Dodgeballs] #1492807 08/30/13 02:14 AM 08/30/13 02:14 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 469 Hawaii D Dodgeballs OP mopar
Dodgeballs OP mopar D Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 469 Hawaii	I had power brakes. Changed to manual just to see if that might be the problem. Same thing. I just have to push the pedal harder to get the same lack of braking. The pedal is still soft. I don't think it's bad rotors/pads. I hate this stupid thing already. I think it has to be hydraulics. That's why I want to change the calipers again and lines/ MC. What brand is a decent reman? Or are there new calipers I can find?

Re: Replacement calipers for Chally [Re: Dodgeballs] #1492808 08/30/13 03:20 AM 08/30/13 03:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	For reman, I've had good luck with Cardone reman brake stuff. Since you have already changed the calipers suggest you hold off on changing again. A weak master can cause the problem you are having. Also hoses. I'd do the master and hoses next. Also make sure the rears are adjusted. I like to adjust until they drag then back off a click or two.

Re: Replacement calipers for Chally [Re: ahy] #1492809 08/30/13 04:50 AM 08/30/13 04:50 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 277 Cincinnati, Ohio C chargincharles enthusiast
chargincharles enthusiast C Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 277 Cincinnati, Ohio	I agree with swapping all the Rubber parts. I would have done ALL the rubber hoses when I did the calipers. Can't trust 30-40+ year old rubber. And this may be silly but- check to make sure your bleeder valves on the calipers are pointing UP when the caliper is installed. If they are pointing down you will be bleeding them until the end of time and never get all the air out of the system. It is possible to swap left-to-right and end up with them pointing down. Got this from the gurus of the brake swap..thanks E-boog! Other than that- I'd replace the master cylinder, and check the proportioning valve. If it is corroded and leaking you will never get all the air out either.... Good Luck with it! CC.

Re: Replacement calipers for Chally [Re: chargincharles] #1492810 08/30/13 06:27 AM 08/30/13 06:27 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 469 Hawaii D Dodgeballs OP mopar
Dodgeballs OP mopar D Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 469 Hawaii	Quote: I agree with swapping all the Rubber parts. I would have done ALL the rubber hoses when I did the calipers. Can't trust 30-40+ year old rubber. And this may be silly but- check to make sure your bleeder valves on the calipers are pointing UP when the caliper is installed. If they are pointing down you will be bleeding them until the end of time and never get all the air out of the system. It is possible to swap left-to-right and end up with them pointing down. Got this from the gurus of the brake swap..thanks E-boog! Other than that- I'd replace the master cylinder, and check the proportioning valve. If it is corroded and leaking you will never get all the air out either.... Good Luck with it! CC. I can't remember if I changed the hoses or not. I'll get under there and look (I put this aside for half a year now). I have changed the MC. I'll do what you guys suggested. My caliper are pointing up -I knew that I did wonder about the proportioning valve. I don't think it was leaking, but I will check again. There must be a leak somewhere. But I haven't seen any obvious leak.

Re: Replacement calipers for Chally [Re: stumpy] #1492811 08/30/13 09:57 AM 08/30/13 09:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,076 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,076 Niles , Ohio	When you went from power to manual did you change the pedal?I believe the power has the rod in a different place for different ratio.That and typically if a booster is bad the pedal is rock hard unless the rod isnt adjusted right.On manual I run a 70 C body master.Also typically if the PP is bad you cant bleed all the brakes.Unless its leaking or stuck it should be good.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

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