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possible state of emergency #1486442
08/18/13 08:49 PM
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I broke a Manley 13093 valve lock. Summit and Jegs have ship dates of 8/26 on this item. I plan on calling Manley tomorrow but not sure if they will be much help

I found my lower ball joints (actually upper ball joints) moving up and down a half inch and replaced them with MOOG today. have yet to get the little grease fitting to screw in after a half hour of trying.

pulled the headers out to goop them up with red permatex in hopes they seal exhaust leaks.

didn't know I didn't need to pull the oil pump to change cams, which turned into dropping the pan for the 3rd time in 3 weeks. I'm stupid

I have showered and changed clothes 3 times, I'm a puddle of mud right now.

if anyone happens to have the valve locks I need, would you be willing to ship them to me and I'll buy you new ones(depending on what Manley tells me tomorrow)

the clock is ticking, and I'm getting nervous. Person I worked with for past 8 years quit and I'm trying to do the job of 2 people at work also.

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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486443
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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: pittsburghracer] #1486444
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no, mine are a single bead at the very top of the lock. its a bit different than the norm


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486445
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Picture may help so we can try to round you up some.


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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: pittsburghracer] #1486446
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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: ksj] #1486447
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http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/manley-13...ysler-hemi.html




I saw that but they may not be in stock. Plan on calling them tomorrow also

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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486448
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Summit actually says 9/3 ship date..


Probably try Arrington?? http://www.shophemi.com/


Chris..

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486449
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I saw that but they may not be in stock. Plan on calling them tomorrow also







Here is clints Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/clint.anderson.104?fref=ts


maybe you can get a quicker answer on it ?


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: ksj] #1486450
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CNC HAD THEM! THANK GOD

THANKS GUYS

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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486451
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Glad you found them, Keep your head up, and call if you need an extra set of hands.


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: 67383s] #1486452
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Glad you found them, Keep your head up, and call if you need an extra set of hands.




If you could just hose me down with cold water while I'm working that would be great, but there is no cold water in south Carolina in august


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486453
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Glad you found them, Keep your head up, and call if you need an extra set of hands.




If you could just hose me down with cold water while I'm working that would be great, but there is no cold water in south Carolina in august


don't you have a/c in the garage?

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Quicktree] #1486454
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Glad you found them, Keep your head up, and call if you need an extra set of hands.




If you could just hose me down with cold water while I'm working that would be great, but there is no cold water in south Carolina in august


don't you have a/c in the garage?




I did, don't know if it still works because I swore I would never turn it on again. it ate money


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486455
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Glad you found them, Keep your head up, and call if you need an extra set of hands.




If you could just hose me down with cold water while I'm working that would be great, but there is no cold water in south Carolina in august


don't you have a/c in the garage?




I did, don't know if it still works because I swore I would never turn it on again. it ate money




But that is the advantage living where you don't have to HEAT your house in the winter...We get to burn all of our $$$ in the winter here at 10°! Not to mention what snow removal equipment costs...

Good luck, and I am routing for you. Kicked A$$ last year, and really made a lot of us very happy to see you win..Wish they would have covered your car more in the vids...


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Dragula] #1486456
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Glad you found them, Keep your head up, and call if you need an extra set of hands.




If you could just hose me down with cold water while I'm working that would be great, but there is no cold water in south Carolina in august


don't you have a/c in the garage?




I did, don't know if it still works because I swore I would never turn it on again. it ate money




But that is the advantage living where you don't have to HEAT your house in the winter...We get to burn all of our $$$ in the winter here at 10°! Not to mention what snow removal equipment costs...

Good luck, and I am routing for you. Kicked A$$ last year, and really made a lot of us very happy to see you win..Wish they would have covered your car more in the vids...




thanks, I would run 3 times and leave before they even had their cameras setup most days.

and I'm from PA, I know all about paying for heat


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486457
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Glad you found them Ray. I have about 175 miles on mine now and I hope to hit the track Friday night.


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Bad340fish] #1486458
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Is that a little anemic Eddy carb on that engine? Most guys are running some pretty good size carb on them. How did you do the ignition set-up?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Dragula] #1486459
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Is that a little anemic Eddy carb on that engine? Most guys are running some pretty good size carb on them. How did you do the ignition set-up?




I just love when people hate on my carbs. for years everyone told me to take the six pack off, now its take the edelbrock off.

I have the MSD hemi 6 on it


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486460
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Is that a little anemic Eddy carb on that engine? Most guys are running some pretty good size carb on them. How did you do the ignition set-up?




I just love when people hate on my carbs. for years everyone told me to take the six pack off, now its take the edelbrock off.

I have the MSD hemi 6 on it




Not hating on it, but my understanding is the G3's prefer more carb than most conventional thinking would call for. What size is it? And I am pretty sure you ran a pair of them on your previous wedge combo...They take a little tinkering just like any carb. I am not famialiar with their Thunder series carbs either, just the old style ones.

On the ignition is it user programable? use setup the entire curve?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Dragula] #1486461
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Is that a little anemic Eddy carb on that engine? Most guys are running some pretty good size carb on them. How did you do the ignition set-up?




I just love when people hate on my carbs. for years everyone told me to take the six pack off, now its take the edelbrock off.

I have the MSD hemi 6 on it




Not hating on it, but my understanding is the G3's prefer more carb than most conventional thinking would call for. What size is it? And I am pretty sure you ran a pair of them on your previous wedge combo...They take a little tinkering just like any carb. I am not famialiar with their Thunder series carbs either, just the old style ones.

On the ignition is it user programable? use setup the entire curve?





it has a timing curve that you can change. retard. rev limiter. map curve. works good


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486462
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I'm anxious to see how you like the cam. Good luck getting over all the issues.


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: AlexP] #1486463
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I'm anxious to see how you like the cam. Good luck getting over all the issues.


Me too, and I would like to know what it is.


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: possible state of emergency [Re: 72Swinger] #1486464
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I'm anxious to see how you like the cam. Good luck getting over all the issues.


Me too, and I would like to know what it is.




I know, but its top secret.



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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: AlexP] #1486465
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I'm guessing it's pretty tame or that Edelbrock carb is going to be a problem to tune.

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: goldmember] #1486466
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I've had to drive the grease fittings in on more than one occasion.
threading them in was not working.

Use a small socket and be sure to keep from dinging the
spring-loaded ball.

Joe

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: jlatessa] #1486467
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I've had to drive the grease fittings in on more than one occasion.
threading them in was not working.

Use a small socket and be sure to keep from dinging the
spring-loaded ball.

Joe




Thanks! I love tech tips in the race section

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I'm guessing it's pretty tame or that Edelbrock carb is going to be a problem to tune.






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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486468
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Good luck w/ it Ray! Wish I was closer, I'd give you a hand. If there's anything I can do, just give me a holler.


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486469
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Good to hear you have some parts on the way.. good
luck in getting it all buttoned up... see you in BG

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1486470
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Good luck!!!!

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need pushrods. its fighting me but not giving up

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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486472
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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Just-a-dart] #1486473
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Looking at that picture and the fact that I can see the extra duration I can only come to one conclusion. There is no way an edelbrock carb is going to work on there.


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Bad340fish] #1486474
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Oh yea those afb, avs, edelbrock are just horrible. I am supprised the NSS cars, Maxi Stockers and so forth will even get to the starting line under their own power. Lol How about the stock class dart that runs low 10's with a single 440 avs. You can tune that design carburator and they work much better than most give them credit for. Steve Wann has run 9.70 in SS with a single AVS.

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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: dannysbee] #1486475
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Oh yea those afb, avs, edelbrock are just horrible. I am supprised the NSS cars, Maxi Stockers and so forth will even get to the starting line under their own power. Lol How about the stock class dart that runs low 10's with a single 440 avs. You can tune that design carburator and they work much better than most give them credit for. Steve Wann has run 9.70 in SS with a single AVS.




Nothing against them as far as tunability goes when using two of them, but those carbs are not stock out of the box carbs the SS guys use and many of the metering rods in them are closely guarded secrets. I assure you when I ran a pair of them on my Hemi, what the engine wanted, and what is available in their tuning kit is night and day different. I was to the point of making my own on a lathe to accomidate what the engine wanted. If they had an all togather seperate idle circuit, they would be better.

You can however order custom ones from certain suppliers that will get them to work better, but limited to a single carb really restricts options. Once I drilled the quirters out big enough to get rid of the bog, I ran out of fuel in the bowl. And the rods never had the right combinations, so it takes more than just tinkering to sort them out.

I am rooting for him, and he had two of these working very well on his RB engine, so I am curious to see...So keep up the work, and I very much want to see him succeed here. Especially taking on a new challenge of a new engine like this after having won last year with his previous combo...Been wanting one of these engines as well, but they are initially cost prohibitive to replace the older generation engines with.

I do have an 850 Proform I can send you if you want to try it, at NO CHARGE. It has all the air bleeds for adjustability, and you are welcome to it. I would put it on the dyno and tweek it a little as I have not had enough time to get it where I would like, but its up to you.

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Just-a-dart] #1486476
08/21/13 01:13 PM
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Make it submit! Like them oval lobes




I sent him to Steve for this cam. The results will be good.


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: AlexP] #1486477
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good news and bad news

I got the car running last night and it sounds much better. the car got a lot louder than it was, I wouldn't have thought that. I have 17" of vacuum at idle, sounds really responsive

the bad news is my friends that own the dyno, well I had a falling out with one of them and won't be able to go back and see what difference it made which really bums me out. but oh well.

I rechecked the vacuum on the old cam and i was mistakin, it wasn't 28 it was 24"

maybe if it EVER stops raining I will get to drive it.


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486478
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good news and bad news

I got the car running last night and it sounds much better. the car got a lot louder than it was, I wouldn't have thought that. I have 17" of vacuum at idle, sounds really responsive

the bad news is my friends that own the dyno, well I had a falling out with one of them and won't be able to go back and see what difference it made which really bums me out. but oh well.

I rechecked the vacuum on the old cam and i was mistakin, it wasn't 28 it was 24"

maybe if it EVER stops raining I will get to drive it.


oh for pete's sake go kiss and make up. friends are hard to find.

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486479
08/24/13 11:00 AM
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that side by side is impressive! I need to get with the times and get a roller


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66 Belv. II - just a streetcar
88 Mustang - turbo LS beater
Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Quicktree] #1486480
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good news and bad news

I got the car running last night and it sounds much better. the car got a lot louder than it was, I wouldn't have thought that. I have 17" of vacuum at idle, sounds really responsive

the bad news is my friends that own the dyno, well I had a falling out with one of them and won't be able to go back and see what difference it made which really bums me out. but oh well.

I rechecked the vacuum on the old cam and i was mistakin, it wasn't 28 it was 24"

maybe if it EVER stops raining I will get to drive it.


oh for pete's sake go kiss and make up. friends are hard to find.





I don't have a problem with him, he has a problem with me. one of those guys that asks for free stuff for his car than turns around and sells or trades his car 3 months later. he traded away someones CNC'ed heads.


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486481
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good news and bad news

I got the car running last night and it sounds much better. the car got a lot louder than it was, I wouldn't have thought that. I have 17" of vacuum at idle, sounds really responsive

the bad news is my friends that own the dyno, well I had a falling out with one of them and won't be able to go back and see what difference it made which really bums me out. but oh well.

I rechecked the vacuum on the old cam and i was mistakin, it wasn't 28 it was 24"

maybe if it EVER stops raining I will get to drive it.


oh for pete's sake go kiss and make up. friends are hard to find.





I don't have a problem with him, he has a problem with me. one of those guys that asks for free stuff for his car than turns around and sells or trades his car 3 months later. he traded away someones CNC'ed heads.


i know thats ridiculous but he has to live with it. tell him how you feel with out getting into

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Quicktree] #1486482
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good news and bad news

I got the car running last night and it sounds much better. the car got a lot louder than it was, I wouldn't have thought that. I have 17" of vacuum at idle, sounds really responsive

the bad news is my friends that own the dyno, well I had a falling out with one of them and won't be able to go back and see what difference it made which really bums me out. but oh well.

I rechecked the vacuum on the old cam and i was mistakin, it wasn't 28 it was 24"

maybe if it EVER stops raining I will get to drive it.


oh for pete's sake go kiss and make up. friends are hard to find.





I don't have a problem with him, he has a problem with me. one of those guys that asks for free stuff for his car than turns around and sells or trades his car 3 months later. he traded away someones CNC'ed heads.


i know thats ridiculous but he has to live with it. tell him how you feel with out getting into




oh I did, somehow in his mind, 30 hrs of my time equals 3 hours on his dyno


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486483
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good news and bad news

I got the car running last night and it sounds much better. the car got a lot louder than it was, I wouldn't have thought that. I have 17" of vacuum at idle, sounds really responsive

the bad news is my friends that own the dyno, well I had a falling out with one of them and won't be able to go back and see what difference it made which really bums me out. but oh well.

I rechecked the vacuum on the old cam and i was mistakin, it wasn't 28 it was 24"

maybe if it EVER stops raining I will get to drive it.


oh for pete's sake go kiss and make up. friends are hard to find.





I don't have a problem with him, he has a problem with me. one of those guys that asks for free stuff for his car than turns around and sells or trades his car 3 months later. he traded away someones CNC'ed heads.


i know thats ridiculous but he has to live with it. tell him how you feel with out getting into




oh I did, somehow in his mind, 30 hrs of my time equals 3 hours on his dyno


he will understand when he doesn't get your help anymore

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486484
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good news and bad news

I got the car running last night and it sounds much better. the car got a lot louder than it was, I wouldn't have thought that. I have 17" of vacuum at idle, sounds really responsive

the bad news is my friends that own the dyno, well I had a falling out with one of them and won't be able to go back and see what difference it made which really bums me out. but oh well.

I rechecked the vacuum on the old cam and i was mistakin, it wasn't 28 it was 24"

maybe if it EVER stops raining I will get to drive it.


oh for pete's sake go kiss and make up. friends are hard to find.





I don't have a problem with him, he has a problem with me. one of those guys that asks for free stuff for his car than turns around and sells or trades his car 3 months later. he traded away someones CNC'ed heads.


i know thats ridiculous but he has to live with it. tell him how you feel with out getting into




oh I did, somehow in his mind, 30 hrs of my time equals 3 hours on his dyno



Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486485
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What's the LSA of your new cam? 17" still seem's quite high.


Jerry Williams.
Re: possible state of emergency [Re: hemidup] #1486486
08/24/13 03:23 PM
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Glad you got it going Ray, see you in BG.


68 Barracuda Formula S 340
Re: possible state of emergency [Re: Bad340fish] #1486487
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glad you stuck with it. good job. tell the dyno guy to f--- off and move on

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486488
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Good to hear you have it up and running

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1486489
08/26/13 01:50 PM
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I read the text about the pushrods and the power gain. Good to see you're feeling the gain!


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: AlexP] #1486490
08/28/13 09:39 PM
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so Chip sent me a Holley 830 cfm dp,it has power valves front and rear, annular boosters, jet extensions/ notched float. I put new gaskets in it, a 50cc pump on the secondaries and just took it for a ride. it doesn't idle as well as the edelbrock and I don't think it feels as fast but its so silky smooth and with the jets that were in it, looks very close on the A/F meter but most of you know I certainly don't live by that meter

the edelbrock had a slight hesitation when the outboards opened which I was planning on working on but I think Chip's Holley is going to Drag Week. I'm not getting full throttle with the Holley so I need to work on a new throttle cable bracket

the new cam not only sounds better but the car feels a lot stronger, I guess we'll see how it does in a week and a half


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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486491
08/28/13 10:07 PM
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Cool... glad you got it back together... see you in
BG..
I pulled the heads off my Rampage today... and the set
of W-2s off my other engine... I'm gonna mock them up
tomorrow and measure for push rods... then I want to
tear the W-5s apart to see if I see anything wrong

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: sixpackgut] #1486492
08/29/13 09:18 AM
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Glad my carb is working good for you. I know you'd rather run the Edelbrock, but since you're in a pinch for time maybe you can make an exception this once, lol.
That carb worked great on my old 440...used it for a long time. Do whatever you need to do to it and good luck at DW!!!


CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: possible state of emergency [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1486493
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I have a question? can a DW participate replace max performance carb from the trunk for a fuel mileage carb on the engine, at the track.then back to milage carb for the road?

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: dodger mope] #1486494
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I have a question? can a DW participate replace max performance carb from the trunk for a fuel mileage carb on the engine, at the track.then back to milage carb for the road?



Yep. I remember that Doc guy w/ the white vette did just that a few years back.


CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: possible state of emergency [Re: dodger mope] #1486495
08/29/13 12:16 PM
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I have a question? can a DW participate replace max performance carb from the trunk for a fuel mileage carb on the engine, at the track.then back to milage carb for the road?




You can change anything you want.. EXCEPT the block..
the block you start with is the one you finish with..
other than that... you can throw ANYTHING at it

Re: possible state of emergency [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1486496
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Shawn Anderson switched between a gasoline carb (for the road) and an E85 carb (track) every day in 2011.


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Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A
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Re: possible state of emergency [Re: BBR] #1486497
08/29/13 03:30 PM
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Get fancy with the carb and you can get good mpg and run well at the track. I came in with a weekly mpg average of over 13mpg and ran in the 11s the whole trip.

I just changed mufflers and it made my tune much more rich though so I will see how that MPG works out this year.


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