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when I was running the dart. a lot of the old timers thought it had a hemi or a big block. when I opened the hood to show them a small block they did not even want to talk to me maybe because it was faster than there 11 or 12 sec 500+ cid big block 727 turd now that I have racing the BIG BLOCK GTX o by the way 10.90 turd these guys want to be friends now has any buddy experience this type of behavior from the old time big block club


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: WHITEDART] #1484638
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Yes from from the ford and chevy guys also. I have to raise the hood to show them I am not spraying it.

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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: WHITEDART] #1484639
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Yep, I know a few of them kinda guys. Get all butt hurt when I drive my pump gas small block Duster through the gate, and run as fast as their fill in the blank big block car.

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well it could be worse, if you put a non mopar engine in they would probably come at you with pitch forks , lol

Re: when i ran a small block [Re: challengermike] #1484641
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There is a guy at our local track that has a 440 Duster that goes mid 11's and he and I have been track buddies for several years...nice guy.

When he first saw the Duster run (first night out) he walks up to me after a 10.3-something lap and says "Now there ya go, put a big block in there, huh?" I say no, just a mild 416 with iron heads. He laughed and looked at me like I was nuts.

At the trailer, I see him and his buddies walking over and yes we had the hood off and yes, he left with his feelings hurt. So much so that I've seen him at the track many times since and he won't even look at me let alone talk to me.

I've had several make the comments that it "just cannot" be a small block. Once after a lap a guy walks by the car and gives me a dirty look after peeking between the fenders. Found out that they had just run a 9.98 for the first time. In a back halfed, light weight, fiberglass, lexan, etc...Valiant with a 500" Indy head motor. Anyone that would listen to him, he was 100% positive we had Nitrous on the car. "No f-ing way" he said about "that thing" going that fast without it.

People are so funny...

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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: WHITEDART] #1484642
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It never fails - I'll make the first pass of the night and 3 or 4 guys will wonder over to take a look. It's usually a 10.70 something but it doesn't make any noise - and they saw me drive it in the gate. They come over and look under the hood and they can't find the engine behind all the AC, PS, hoses and smog junk. Then when they spot the turbo they suddenly understand - although most think it's a supercharger. Then I usually hear about how they hate turbos or power adders, and how it would be so much better if I did it NA the old-school way. That's a tall order if you still want to drive it much and have any manners at all. I'll keep my AC and power steering thank you very much. LOL

I'm always polite and wave when I pass them in their tow-rigs on the way home... and dream about what the combo would feel like in a 2800# race car.

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Why would anyone get mad because a smallblock Mopar can outrun their bigblock ?? Who cares as I would want to tell them they have a good running car and then I would want to know the combo as I always like to know their combo's as I figure I may learn something. Anything can run fast in the right combo and I have learned that these smallblock Mopar strokers run real strong. And I am glad to see the Mopar smallblock run good because its a Mopar ! Some bigblocks run faster then smallblocks and some dont. It all comes down to power to weight. The main reason I run a bigblock in my 63 is because I always loved how good the Max Wedge cars ran in their day and thats how I want my 63 to be. Like a Max Wedge car I want a bigblock in it. If I had an A-body like a Demon I would not hesitate to but a smallblock in it as I know they run so good. My feelings is that if someone has a combo that runs good let them know and learn all you can from their combo. And if you have a great running combo dont gloat and put down others combo's as that would make that person a showoff. Anything that runs good I try to learn the combo as it may help me and my combo go faster someday. ron

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Its even more fun with a NA pump gas (93) small block.


1970 Duster
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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: pittsburghracer] #1484645
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I agree. its always fun beaten up on the big blocks,especially if there chevys.

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Great posts. I had built an Aspen Wagon stocker about 2000 and would go out and put down 12.30's. Non Mopar racers would walk over and see a cast iron intake and a Thermoquad and a full interior and just scratch their heads and walk away. Those were the days.


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Yep, I know a few of them kinda guys. Get all butt hurt when I drive my pump gas small block Duster through the gate, and run as fast as their fill in the blank big block car.


Not all big block street cars are "turds".................


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Yep, I know a few of them kinda guys. Get all butt hurt when I drive my pump gas small block Duster through the gate, and run as fast as their fill in the blank big block car.


Not all big block street cars are "turds".................




You should see the hearts my Friends Duster breaks when his 8 second NA Edelbrock headed big block makes a pass. Not Victors either.


1970 Duster
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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




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NICE!.............Tell us more.........weight, heads cam etc...........


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: pittsburghracer] #1484650
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And I thought I was alone with my experiences.

Try running 8.0's against a field full of BB Mopars with either nitrous, blown alcohol, or supercharged with the only car with all the stock chrome, glass, trim. The new guys would run over to see and then go tell their friends that you had a million dollars in your motor or whatever BS they could make up as the excuse for you kicking their ARS. Even the Mopar magazine editers would make up BS to make out like you were doing something over the top to run the numbers.

Leon


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I owned a 340 once before too, I used it to crank over my 440

To answer your question I'm not really sure, I prefer big blocks but Mopar power is Mopar power.

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I have seen both sides on this. I built a 71 Challenger pump gas street strip car. When I first ran it, it only ran 13.50. Guys would ask if I had a small block. No its a low comp 440. took a few months of tuning and driving got it to 11.90. Then they would want to know what I did. It was the same just dialed it in. Back in 1996 at SAC there yearly Mopar show I won the whole thing against a small block 4spd Valiant. He was the track favorite and I was a nobody that showed up. Pissed a lot of people off. Oh well thats Drag racing.

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NICE!.............Tell us more.........weight, heads cam etc...........




1970 duster, 2600+ pounds, a set of Edelbrock heads he ported himself while Tom Hemphile gave him pointers, SOLID LIFTER cam, tunnel ram with two 750 holley, powerglide with 1.80 gear set, 14-32's, not sure on cubic inch but its under 500 and a stock block. He's almost always in the 8.80-9.00's at an average 1400-2400 corrected alt track.


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




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BAD AZZ....................How fast would my 9.79 translate to at that weight by chance..........


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when I was running the dart. a lot of the old timers thought it had a hemi or a big block. when I opened the hood to show them a small block they did not even want to talk to me maybe because it was faster than there 11 or 12 sec 500+ cid big block 727 turd now that I have racing the BIG BLOCK GTX o by the way 10.90 turd these guys want to be friends now has any buddy experience this type of behavior from the old time big block club





Boy, if you only knew how much that post is right in my wheelhouse....lol

Gary (Unlawfl) and I used to have some epic smallblock/bigblock threads on here. Many of the old timers I am sure remember them.

For about 4 seasons I raced in a ten flat shootout points series up at Mid Michigan Motorplex( Stanton). Very competitive bunch of guys in that class, stock suspension, no ladder or 4 link, 12 measured inches of DOT or a ten inch slick allowed, mufflers required yada, yada on a 4 tenths pro tree.
There were usually about 18-22 cars show up. In the 4 years I raced in it, there were a total of 3 small block cars. Myself, a 434 Nova, and a firebird with a 383 smallblock stroker and a blower.All the rest were all big blocks. That is a pretty good sampling size, as cars kinda came and went that didn't consistently go rounds over those years. There was a 200 pound weight break I got being smallblock N/A, but my car weighed 50 pounds over what a N/A big block was required to weigh for the class.
Lot of doggy, and shaggy, cut up, lightened big blocks out there, even crammed into A bodies that are cut up and still run mid tens or worse. Its not unusual at all, its WAY the norm


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

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1970 duster, 2600+ pounds, a set of Edelbrock heads he ported himself while Tom Hemphile gave him pointers, SOLID LIFTER cam, tunnel ram with two 750 holley, powerglide with 1.80 gear set, 14-32's, not sure on cubic inch but its under 500 and a stock block. He's almost always in the 8.80-9.00's at an average 1400-2400 corrected alt track.






BAD AZZ....................How fast would my 9.79 translate to at that weight by chance..........




The old 100 pounds equals .010 works out pretty good if the car hooks.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




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That`s promising as I located a square tube chassis in Az. that`s WAY light and certed to 8.50 apparently.........


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NICE!.............Tell us more.........weight, heads cam etc...........




1970 duster, 2600+ pounds, a set of Edelbrock heads he ported himself while Tom Hemphile gave him pointers, SOLID LIFTER cam, tunnel ram with two 750 holley, powerglide with 1.80 gear set, 14-32's, not sure on cubic inch but its under 500 and a stock block. He's almost always in the 8.80-9.00's at an average 1400-2400 corrected alt track.






BAD AZZ....................How fast would my 9.79 translate to at that weight by chance..........




The old 100 pounds equals .010 works out pretty good if the car hooks.




I know of a black 70 Cuda( about same weight) that ran 9.0x, with just BIBA heads( doubt they flow as much air as big block eddies do) with a 3.79 crank that he raced forever. Many guys on here saw it run as he raced at the Mopar events with it for a long time. Currently has a w8 smallblock in it and has been at least 8.70's, if not quicker as I haven't seen it yet this season, but I am sure it will be at Norwalk, and was probably at Indy with it.


69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

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That`s promising as I located a square tube chassis in Az. that`s WAY light and certed to 8.50 apparently.........




I finally picked up my spare 500 dollar 9 inch ford yesterday. Man what a deal. axles, spool, 4:30 gears, housing, aluminum center section, rotors, and two sets of calipers.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




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1970 duster, 2600+ pounds, a set of Edelbrock heads he ported himself while Tom Hemphile gave him pointers, SOLID LIFTER cam, tunnel ram with two 750 holley, powerglide with 1.80 gear set, 14-32's, not sure on cubic inch but its under 500 and a stock block. He's almost always in the 8.80-9.00's at an average 1400-2400 corrected alt track.






BAD AZZ....................How fast would my 9.79 translate to at that weight by chance..........




The old 100 pounds equals .010 works out pretty good if the car hooks.




I know of a black 70 Cuda( about same weight) that ran 9.0x, with just BIBA heads( doubt they flow as much air as big block eddies do) with a 3.79 crank that he raced forever. Many guys on here saw it run as he raced at the Mopar events with it for a long time. Currently has a w8 smallblock in it and has been at least 8.70's, if not quicker as I haven't seen it yet this season, but I am sure it will be at Norwalk, and was probably at Indy with it.





This is the Father of the guy with the red duster. He has gone 8.60's with B1BS heads and races at PRP every week.



1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




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Will I'll have to offer my when I ran a small block W2 340 in Denver it would beat most of the big block Mopars back in the 80's Fast forward to 2000 Dakota pickup super charged 360 best it ran 10.60 at 125 mph before it went boom. Put in a big block ran 10.12 at 135 it had a mild cam in it at the time say what you want but when you have lot's of cubes with very little head flow makes for a disappointing outcome. Still have that same big block just more cam runs 8.69 in my car I under stand the small block verses big block been on both sides but will stay with the big block.


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I built a 408 sb and ran it for 5 or so years. Those stroker small blocks definitely run good. When I first built this engine, I built it to run 12.0 or just a click faster.
Well my first pass was 11.77 with street tires, and got down to 11.0's eventually. So, yes these small blocks definitely run good.

BUT, nowadays it is just cheaper to build a big block and still make more power.

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I think I will stick with my BB. Was a SB guy back in the 80's-90's when we had few choices for good heads. So the best options I saw was a SB with W2's. The early 90's we switched to our first B1 deal and it ran well, well enough to make a few paperweights out of stock blocks. BUt I will say I have been a BB guy since the mid 90's, not that I wont go back but would take something special to make that happen, or a switch to Comp Eliminator which I don't really see in my future since I don't play the lottery.


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I gotta say I love them both but it kills me with the Daytona sitting here and the 572 sitting on the engine stand. It only had 10 passes on it in 2010 when I wrecked the Daytona so i will freshen it up this Winter and install the B1 heads and put it in either the Daytona if I finish it or the Duster. The Duster is only certified to 8.50 with no updates in the works. I bought a alcohol system a few months ago so it may be put to use. I haven't payed for race gas since 2010 an it would kill me to pay that much to race every week.


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422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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I've seen your car announced more then once as a Hemi or a big block, makes me laugh every time




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It's a strange thing I've found and just got used too, that if you turn up with your small block even thou your carving up the field, the crowds always gather around the big block cars. Its just one of those things


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: charger410] #1484667
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I was a guest at a track rental by a local car club. My '66 was running low 15's and a guy with a '70 Nova called me out. He had been bragging about the LT-1 he had.

I put a gate job on him and beat him about 5 cars. He came up in the pits and told me I had a good running 318. He crapped his pants when a buddy opened my hood for him and showed him the Slant. To add insult to injury he hoped in his car and it wouldn't turn over.

No one has seen him since.


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Haha! Priceless! That kind of stuff ya can't buy


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: charger410] #1484669
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Its up here in sweden also. Lot of funny faces when i was at a muscle car meet where they had a chassie dyno.
Me and one other guy with a 500 cui bb where the only ones that made over 400 hp to the tires.
Mine is a super mild 408 with rhs heads.

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when I was running the dart. a lot of the old timers thought it had a hemi or a big block. when I opened the hood to show them a small block they did not even want to talk to me maybe because it was faster than there 11 or 12 sec 500+ cid big block 727 turd now that I have racing the BIG BLOCK GTX o by the way 10.90 turd these guys want to be friends now has any buddy experience this type of behavior from the old time big block club


I get it regularly. One look at the "Land Yacht" and everyone thinks it must have a big block in it. Even the name sez big block.

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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: Crizila] #1484671
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I've got a big block that runs 9.30-40's and a small block that runs 9.50's and really like both setups. The car and motor I built for my Mom is a all steel, all interior Duster 366" pump gas that runs 11.0's. All the Mopar guys around here are stuck in the past and none of them ever really ask me about my combos.


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: Just-a-dart] #1484672
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I've seen your car announced more then once as a Hemi or a big block, makes me laugh every time




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Dont forget that sometimes a smallblock is bigger then a bigblock ! Ron

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The car and motor I built for my Mom is a all steel, all interior Duster 366" pump gas that runs 11.0's. All the Mopar guys around here are stuck in the past and none of them ever really ask me about my combos.


Well im not stuck in the past, please do tell about this combo.

Re: when i ran a small block [Re: D-50] #1484675
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I've seen some pretty good looks on people's faces when i tell them my small block is bigger than their big block.


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: WHITEDART] #1484676
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People get irked over all sorts of stuff, even when you do run a big block. Apparently it's not "allowed" to run mid 10s with a pump-gas street car you drive to the track that's still got a stock-stroke 440 crank, a flat-tappet cam, standard-port heads (not MW), and scales at 3700+ lbs on the track scale. And then you pass them on the drive home.

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People get irked over all sorts of stuff




I beat a guy that was irked because my Duster had a car seat in the back.
Apparently he thought it was a prop that I put in the car to purposely humiliate him. It was actually for my 4 year old daughter and was such a PITA to remove that I just left it in the car.

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Not trying to start anything but I used to run small block Mopar and they it ran in the early 11's high 10's but I had a lot of money into it.
I built a 9.5/1 440 30 over with TRW flat tops, 452 cast iron heads with 2.14 1.81 and a bowl port and a 850 holley with a 727 and 430 gear and it ran 10.43 in the same car with very little tuning.
It only cost me around 2500.00 and some used parts I acquired at swap meets.
Its more a "the bang for the buck!"
I loved my 340 notchback, it was a monster on the street.
Its just cheaper to go fast with the Big Block.


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The car and motor I built for my Mom is a all steel, all interior Duster 366" pump gas that runs 11.0's. All the Mopar guys around here are stuck in the past and none of them ever really ask me about my combos.


Well im not stuck in the past, please do tell about this combo.




Factory 360 block with main studs, Edelbrock heads that I worked a little bit, Airgap intake, Quickfuel 850 on pump gas, TTI headers, .540ish flat tappet cam, Ultimate 8", and 4.30 gears. Those are the highlights but I can give you more info if you want it. Best 1/8th mile pass was a 6.89.

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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: WHITEDART] #1484680
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I don't have any thing against big blocks. I no there is no substitute for DISPLACEMENT.. just wish they could get it together. some of these guys don't even like A body cars. im not poking at the fasts guys.

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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: Jacob Pitt] #1484681
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while it was fun having an unusual car (80 Mirada) with a pretty low buck Stage VI equipped RB that gave us a best of 9.93..... other than the nice launch it was a pretty boring ride. Shifting at 5600 and trapping a bit over 6k. Now running my dads Duster on the other hand... Always enjoyed running that car whether it was the low buck 360 (best of 10.91), or later the trouble plauged W5 mill (best of 9.87) it was just more fun to drive. It's too bad the W5 mill gave us fits cause we never did really get the car sorted out with it + we were only shifting around 6800. That combo had a bunch more in it.

....currently the old 360 has been freshened and is sitting in the frame rails. Other small block to replace the W5 fiasco is being formulated. I REALLY need to get out and work on it and get it running again...

Re: when i ran a small block [Re: J_BODY] #1484682
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while it was fun having an unusual car (80 Mirada) with a pretty low buck Stage VI equipped RB that gave us a best of 9.93..... other than the nice launch it was a pretty boring ride. Shifting at 5600 and trapping a bit over 6k. Now running my dads Duster on the other hand... Always enjoyed running that car whether it was the low buck 360 (best of 10.91), or later the trouble plauged W5 mill (best of 9.87) it was just more fun to drive. It's too bad the W5 mill gave us fits cause we never did really get the car sorted out with it + we were only shifting around 6800. That combo had a bunch more in it.

....currently the old 360 has been freshened and is sitting in the frame rails. Other small block to replace the W5 fiasco is being formulated. I REALLY need to get out and work on it and get it running again...


I hear ya about fairly high winding mills............my big block 470 WINDS like a small block w/regular 7000+ shifts and it`s still pullin. I`m sure w/a better driver and tuner my junk would be faster just don`t care that much anymore I guess..........


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: WHITEDART] #1484683
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I love beating big blocks lol.I would pull into the hess gas station and put 93 octane in it,drive to the hangouts.I'd get asked almost everytime i went out w a thumbs up how big of a bb is it ? I'd smile and say its a sb and they'd give me the look like...yeah ok.It ran a best of 9.58 but would run 60's allday anyday.As far as money it had tti headers,3.91 gears,full exhaust w a 950 holley.Truly nothing exotic,just a good combo.Same for my flat tappet cammed pumpgas 3200lb dart. I paid 8 grand from block to oil pan,it was fun runnin a 10sec car to mc donalds.The flat tappet motor sounded big w that idle..

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i love small blocks

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Me too...


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: mafo] #1484687
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guys will come up to me, asking about the car, when I tell them it has a 360 in it, they respond with "oh" and walk away...

I apologize its not a BB or a hemi, or even a 340


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: OUTLAWD] #1484688
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i had a guy walk over to my car in the pits and pop the hood...
I was walking back to my car at the time and was pretty annoyed ...that someone would have the nerve to do that with out my permission...he was with a few other guys..
I said "can i help you"? ...
they thought it was a big block..and were surprised it was not...
we couldnt have a conversation because of me being pissed about him touching my car with out my permission..
I said..."how about i go over and lift up your wifes skirt and take a look?"
that didnt go over well....and i did not make any new friends that day..

found out he has a big block dart tubbed with wheelie bars and 2x4s sticking out the hood.that runs high 11s.


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i had a guy walk over to my car in the pits and pop the hood...
I was walking back to my car at the time and was pretty annoyed ...that someone would have the nerve to do that with out my permission...he was with a few other guys..
I said "can i help you"? ...
they thought it was a big block..and were surprised it was not...
we couldnt have a conversation because of me being pissed about him touching my car with out my permission..
I said..."how about i go over and lift up your wifes skirt and take a look?"
that didnt go over well....and i did not make any new friends that day..

found out he has a big block dart tubbed with wheelie bars and 2x4s sticking out the hood.that runs high 11s.


" now i dont care who you are thats funny wright there"

Re: when i ran a small block [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #1484690
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I used to get this crap all the time. Most people were pleasantly surprised and we would have a conversation. But there were people who wouldn't give the car it's credit when credit was due. Even douche bag magazine editers with big block envy couldn't rap their tiny little heads around it.

Re: when i ran a small block [Re: dc426] #1484691
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I got a bit of that back in the 80s-90s when I ran an all steel E-body 340 car that ran 11.0s and was quicker than most of the A-bodies running big blocks. But I agree it's cheaper to build horsepower with a big block, and the small block did require more maintenance. But it was fun


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I had a car 29 years ago with a 253 gmh holden and on the street was beating bb/sb chevs 351 fords the guys where peed when I use to lift the hood and read 253 lol, now I am a mopar man kicking butt all over here in oz with a best 9.57@142 full street trim 3550 lbs 4 door sedan car ,standed 2 bolt 360 block is one of the fastest mopar streetcars here.


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I really get many comments about my engine being a BB. My ci is 413 and I have it on my hood so naturally many think incorrectly.

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ya ya ya.... It's guys like you shilo and rod that made me do it! both of you guys are getting the bill next week!

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ya ya ya.... It's guys like you shiloh and rod that made me do it! both of you guys are getting the bill next week!


I was not going to go there.


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guys will come up to me, asking about the car, when I tell them it has a 360 in it, they respond with "oh" and walk away...

I apologize its not a BB or a hemi, or even a 340


I wonder if it's the same way in the bow tie world. I think the ford guys no the Windsor is where it,s at


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Whenever I run into a mopar brother at the track or whatever BB/SB - NA or power adder I am more impressed by what it does for what it is.


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i had a guy walk over to my car in the pits and pop the hood...
I was walking back to my car at the time and was pretty annoyed ...that someone would have the nerve to do that with out my permission...he was with a few other guys..
I said "can i help you"? ...
they thought it was a big block..and were surprised it was not...
we couldnt have a conversation because of me being pissed about him touching my car with out my permission..
I said..."how about i go over and lift up your wifes skirt and take a look?"
that didnt go over well....and i did not make any new friends that day..

found out he has a big block dart tubbed with wheelie bars and 2x4s sticking out the hood.that runs high 11s.


yo cheap i wouldve bin pist myself

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guys will come up to me, asking about the car, when I tell them it has a 360 in it, they respond with "oh" and walk away...

I apologize its not a BB or a hemi, or even a 340


I wonder if it's the same way in the bow tie world. I think the ford guys no the Windsor is where it,s at




It most def does happen to chebby guys also.I heard like 5 or 6 people look at my boys sb2 motor and tell their friends or children....Look at how big the bb is. kinda funny to watch.

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Interesting thread. I've never experienced this. We've always ran BB stuff but it doesn't bother me to see a great running car with a SB. I always think its impressive. We just run BB because that's what we know and we've always been able to make them run very well. I would never downplay a person because of his/her choice of engine. That's just being a [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] plain and simple. A fast car is impressive no matter what and deserves respect for the hard work and money it took to make it that way.

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its all good its just kool to make a small block run and u got more room lol

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Really Moparts?? You edit out douche bag!? That's ridiculous lol.

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Were not degrading anyone,were just goofin on SOME bb guys.I love fast cars and trust me,if i needed to go mid 7 i'd own one.I think this is more laughing on old school dudes more then anything.

Re: when i ran a small block [Re: silverfish] #1484704
08/18/13 04:56 PM
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Really Moparts?? You edit out douche bag!? That's ridiculous lol.


its all in good fun

Re: when i ran a small block [Re: fishy340] #1484705
08/18/13 06:00 PM
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I apologize its not a BB or a hemi

We forgive you.


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: BB65Barracuda] #1484706
08/18/13 11:14 PM
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I don't get much from the Mopar guys, most know that small blocks with a 4" crank run hard.

There is a local guy that went down south and picked up a nice BB Camaro drag car, 14 x 32s full cage, one seat the whole deal. He's seen my Dart on the road a bunch but never at the strip. So last fall I was up at I-57 and he was there. After the time trials I had the hood up and had put the dial on the window. He walks up and looks at my small block and shakes his head and walks back over to his car. I was puzzled for a minute about what was going on, he had dialed his race car 6.90, my Dart was dialed 6.68. I think his feelings were hurt a little bit.

Re: when i ran a small block [Re: WHITEDART] #1484707
08/19/13 03:58 AM
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I have both BB and SB powered mopars and both run very well. The Demon with the production headed, [587 castings], sm block, flat tappet cammed, stroker 360/418 has gone 9.68 at 136mph with a 1.26 60ft. at 3100#, on gas. The LeBaron with a production headed, [915 castings], Big Block, flat tappet cammed, stroker 383/449, has gone 9.02 at 149mph at 2450#, also on gas. They both have equal effort, and cost, in building them. The BB runs a little hot and the sb runs cool.
I have also had the guys walk away in disbeleif after seeing the Demon go down the track and then see the stock appearing sm block under the hood





An all iron sm block munching an all aluminum big block

Re: when i ran a small block [Re: qwkmopardan] #1484708
08/19/13 09:43 PM
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I must say im glad that I am not the only one. it will be great when my dart comes out with a 440 small block. hopefully it will get some respect


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Re: when i ran a small block [Re: WHITEDART] #1484709
08/19/13 10:32 PM
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The car will, you on the other hand is another story



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