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A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std #1484324 08/14/13 11:15 AM 08/14/13 11:15 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert OP Circle Track
RapidRobert OP Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Will going from one type to the other move the rear axle forward or rearward (which spring/which way & how far). Superstock 003. Thank you for your time. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: RapidRobert] #1484325 08/14/13 11:29 AM 08/14/13 11:29 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	For an A body, I do not believe so. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: RapidRobert] #1484326 08/14/13 02:12 PM 08/14/13 02:12 PM
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skicker "The Champ" Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,107 Western Md.	The biggest thing I noticed when I did the swap to the SS springs was the fact that the increase in arc of the spring when they stand up under load or are jacked up. It does pull the tires a little closer to the front of the wheelwell-quarter panel. It would probably not be noticeable unless the tires are already close. ...FAFO...

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: skicker] #1484327 08/14/13 04:39 PM 08/14/13 04:39 PM
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RapidRobert OP Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: It does pull the tires a little closer to the front of the wheelwell-quarter panel. Driveshaft end play is where I am going with this live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: RapidRobert] #1484328 08/14/13 06:48 PM 08/14/13 06:48 PM
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skicker "The Champ" Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,107 Western Md.	It should be fine. I can't reference that from mine because we used a 65 B Body Dodge front spring hanger (installed upside down) to move the rear back about an inch and an 1/8th. I had a custom shaft built that was 49 1/2". It has exactly 1" of space left before bottoming out at ride ht. When you jack it up by the body and the springs fall to the full shock extension that 1" gap becomes about 5/8". dunno if that helps.. ...FAFO...

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: RapidRobert] #1484329 08/14/13 08:37 PM 08/14/13 08:37 PM
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62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	The front segment on the SS spring is 2" shorter than the standard spring.

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: 62maxwgn] #1484330 08/14/13 08:47 PM 08/14/13 08:47 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert OP Circle Track
RapidRobert OP Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: The front segment on the SS spring is 2" shorter than the standard spring. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: 62maxwgn] #1484331 08/14/13 09:39 PM 08/14/13 09:39 PM
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70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	Quote: The front segment on the SS spring is 2" shorter than the standard spring. that is not correct..standard a body front segment is 20 inches..so are SS springs...where the 2 inch shorter problems comes is with B and E bodies...NOT A Bodies... I have installed SS springs on both A and E bodies..the E body required a new front hangar that was 2 inches longer...the SS spring bolted directly on to the A body ...In fact I just installed SS 002/003 springs on a 71 Duster earlier this year..and those same SS springs came off a 71 Dart. Both cars had stock springs removed and SS installed. Last edited by 70AARcuda; 08/14/13 09:43 PM.

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: 62maxwgn] #1484332 08/14/13 09:41 PM 08/14/13 09:41 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: The front segment on the SS spring is 2" shorter than the standard spring. ON AN A BODY? I don't think so http://www.hotrodreference.com/1105/mopar-passenger-car-leaf-spring-dimensions/ They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: RapidRobert] #1484333 08/14/13 09:43 PM 08/14/13 09:43 PM
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nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Quote: The front segment on the SS spring is 2" shorter than the standard spring. 2" shorter than the standard B body spring, not the A body spring.

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: 62maxwgn] #1484334 08/15/13 08:13 AM 08/15/13 08:13 AM
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skicker "The Champ" Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,107 Western Md.	Quote: The front segment on the SS spring is 2" shorter than the standard spring. The front segment of the SS spring is 2" shorter on a B and E body...Not an A body. As I said earlier it may differ 1/4 or so due to the added arch but that's it. ...FAFO...

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: skicker] #1484335 08/15/13 08:49 AM 08/15/13 08:49 AM
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3ddart pro stock 3 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,466 malvern, ohio	You can also add a 1/4 or 1/2 inch spacer between the body mount and spring hanger to gain room/center the wheel in the opening. Also be sure to check the angle of the rear shackle to make sure the top is forward of the bottom when completed.

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: 3ddart] #1484336 08/15/13 09:46 AM 08/15/13 09:46 AM
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RapidRobert OP Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	I have 2 A bodies, one with the SS springs & I have spaced them back at the front and also a plate at the rear so the bottom of the shackles is pointing rearward. rear ujoint end play is tight but acceptable. The other A body has OE springs with no spacers & there's a bit too much ujoint end play since the driveshaft is a little too short tho there is no vibration. I am swapping rear ends between the two & was considering swapping the springs also mainly for the ride & I was wanting to get an idea of the "on paper" differences between the two so I dont get jambed up on the ujoint end play deal. I was gonna just measure with a plumb bob/tape but the arch confused things so I thought I'd post. I may have to go ahead & measure (always a smart move ) & go from there. Thanks guys! Last edited by RapidRobert; 08/15/13 09:50 AM.

Re: A body rear spring segment length Q, SS vs std [Re: RapidRobert] #1484337 08/15/13 12:56 PM 08/15/13 12:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,076 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,076 Niles , Ohio	Unless you have an early B body that the SS are 1 inch shorter.Frt segment on my 65 is 21 inches.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

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