Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body #147906
11/09/08 10:02 PM
11/09/08 10:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852
KENTUCKY
69CHARGERMD Offline OP
master
69CHARGERMD  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852
KENTUCKY
I would like to hear what you guys have used,,,what you like,,dislike,,etc,,,switching from front drums,,,to disc brakes,,,,What did you use on your car ???

This is on the Charger,,,,

I would prefer to buy a KIT,,,as opposed to piece mealing the parts

Is there a particular brand you like,,,,,quality ,,, etc,

Did the "kit" come with EVERYTHING,,,,,was it a easy bolt on deal ??

Car is STREET driven only,,,

I need to improve the stopping power for this thing,,,pretty hilly' here in Kentucky,,,and it can make for a scary ride if i need to stop in a hurry,,,lol

Thanks,,,, Doug




Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #147907
11/10/08 07:40 PM
11/10/08 07:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852
KENTUCKY
69CHARGERMD Offline OP
master
69CHARGERMD  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852
KENTUCKY

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #147908
11/11/08 10:03 AM
11/11/08 10:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 75,043
U.S.S.A.
JohnRR Offline
I Win
JohnRR  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 75,043
U.S.S.A.
I can't reccomend a kit as I lean toward piece mealing it that way if i need a part I can more than likely get it at the local parts house vs. having to deal wit hthe inflated price and lead time trying to get it from the KIT seller .



on a car that doesn't need the stock look i'd lean toward the stock 73 a body drum spindle , ARE adaptors for VIPER calipers and 11.75 rotors .

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: JohnRR] #147909
11/11/08 08:10 PM
11/11/08 08:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 546
Stuart FL
M
mercman1 Offline
mopar
mercman1  Offline
mopar
M

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 546
Stuart FL
Go to the AREngineering web site...Not a complete kit, but their stuff works! I have had the Cordoba rotor,Wilwood 4 piston caliper set up on my 69 GTX and have not had any issues what so ever since I installed it about 4 years ago. Hang on ...it will stop!

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: mercman1] #147910
11/11/08 08:25 PM
11/11/08 08:25 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,577
Long Island, NY USA
B
BergmanAutoCraft Offline
master
BergmanAutoCraft  Offline
master
B

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,577
Long Island, NY USA
We sell a 13" bolt on deal with forged disc spindles, but you will need 17" wheels to do so...

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #147911
11/11/08 08:42 PM
11/11/08 08:42 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 512
Sacramento, CA
B
Bdrainy Offline
mopar
Bdrainy  Offline
mopar
B

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 512
Sacramento, CA
I went with the SSBC kit. The front brakes use 65 mustang stuff so I am able to get pads, etc.. from the local auto parts store. And I can run the original 14" wheels too.

The kit works well, but took me some time to get it to work well. I went with their power brake system on my 70 roadrunner. The booster and m/c are late 70's corvette units if I remember right... and I just could not get the brakes to work well at all. Couldn't lock the wheels up at all and felt like I hardly had any brakes during a panic stop situation.

So i ditched the booster and m/c and I finally bought a dual diaphram booster for a 70 roadrunner and a 15/16" m/c for a Dart and the brakes works perfectly now.

Don't know if I would go with SSBC again or not....it was $$$$.

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: Bdrainy] #147912
11/11/08 08:49 PM
11/11/08 08:49 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,916
usa
L
lewtot184 Offline
master
lewtot184  Offline
master
L

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,916
usa
i used a '73 a-body conversion kit from Right Stuff. avoid it like the plague!

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #147913
11/11/08 09:26 PM
11/11/08 09:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,759
So Cal
HealthServices Offline
Why would you even post that?
HealthServices  Offline
Why would you even post that?

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,759
So Cal
doctordiff has a couple versions depending on what you have for wheels too. but his site is a little outdated. pm him


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #147914
11/11/08 11:04 PM
11/11/08 11:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 31,046
Oregon
A
AndyF Offline
I Win
AndyF  Offline
I Win
A

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 31,046
Oregon
I used Viper stuff on my car but it wasn't a complete kit. You have to swap to the late model knuckles first and you'll have to find those in a wrecking yard or at a swap meet.

4807543-viper.jpg (119 downloads)
Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: AndyF] #147915
11/11/08 11:31 PM
11/11/08 11:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,664
IN
A
ahy Offline
master
ahy  Offline
master
A

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,664
IN
Master Power Brakes sell new reproductions of the desirable late model A body spindles. They'll also sell you a stock style complete kit made to work with 14" wheels.

My choice was a 13" Baer system with the late model spindles and 17" wheels. It works well - I can stop at speed with confidence. I do need to get a dual diaphram booster however to get full benefit; a project for this winter.

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: Bdrainy] #147916
11/12/08 12:09 AM
11/12/08 12:09 AM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,646
Ontario,Canada
F
firefighter3931 Offline
top fuel
firefighter3931  Offline
top fuel
F

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,646
Ontario,Canada
Quote:

I went with the SSBC kit... and I just could not get the brakes to work well at all. Couldn't lock the wheels up at all and felt like I hardly had any brakes during a panic stop situation.

So i ditched the booster and m/c and I finally bought a dual diaphram booster for a 70 roadrunner and a 15/16" m/c for a Dart and the brakes works perfectly now.

Don't know if I would go with SSBC again or not....it was $$$$.





This seems to be a common theme for those using the supplied MC that comes with the SSBC kit.

What a 4 piston caliper setup needs is a small bore (high pressure) MC instead of the large bore unit that comes with the kit.

Other than the MC mismatch i was impressed by the fit and quality of the SSBC kit. The added bonus is that it bolts up to the factory drum brake spindles....no need to rip the front end apart and swap knuckles.


Ron

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #147917
11/12/08 04:03 PM
11/12/08 04:03 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 577
Michigan
Whitey Nocar Offline
mopar
Whitey Nocar  Offline
mopar

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 577
Michigan
putting new brakes on it for me?

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: Whitey Nocar] #147918
11/12/08 07:49 PM
11/12/08 07:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852
KENTUCKY
69CHARGERMD Offline OP
master
69CHARGERMD  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852
KENTUCKY
Steve,,,yup,,,now you just have to come down to Kentucky to test drive it,,,,,,lol

I ended up getting the SSBC kit,,,,,

I have MANUAL brakes,,,,,no booster,,,,

Is there a particular,,,,small bore MC that i should get,,,,you guys mentioned the Dart MC,,,thanks for any info ....

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #147919
11/12/08 07:55 PM
11/12/08 07:55 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 404
Dana Point, CA
Fast Yeti Offline
mopar
Fast Yeti  Offline
mopar

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 404
Dana Point, CA
Aerospace Pro Street, that is what I have. Doug, you can have my front disc breaks that I had on the Road runner If you would like. They worked really well.

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: Fast Yeti] #147920
11/12/08 10:44 PM
11/12/08 10:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852
KENTUCKY
69CHARGERMD Offline OP
master
69CHARGERMD  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852
KENTUCKY
Thanks Tom,
I didnt know you had an extra set,,,
I just got the new kit today,,,
Already got the old brakes torn off the front,,,,
thanks for the offer...........

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #147921
11/12/08 11:40 PM
11/12/08 11:40 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 216
united kingdom
Simonic Offline
enthusiast
Simonic  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 216
united kingdom
I'm thinking of doing this conversion also on my 68 superbee.
i was looking at a kit by mp brakes which supplies a bolt in kit including a booster.
Has anybody used this kit?
many thanks


Keeping the Bee Buzzin'
Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: Simonic] #147922
11/13/08 02:09 AM
11/13/08 02:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
DAYCLONA Offline
I Live Here
DAYCLONA  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
Quote:

I'm thinking of doing this conversion also on my 68 superbee.
i was looking at a kit by mp brakes which supplies a bolt in kit including a booster.
Has anybody used this kit?
many thanks









The MP booster set up is a GM peice, with a GM master, a very long set up, comes right up to the battery, performance is sub par at best,......SSBC makes a better front bolt on conversion if you want to retain the drum spindles, and avoid the complete change out of your stock spindles,......I wouldn't bother with the MC or booster,....another GM piece,.....if you can find a dual diaphram bendix Mopar booster use it, radically enhances the performance of the brakes, don't forget to change out your proportioning valve, to a disk/drum set up, a small bore disc/drum master works best,......if you decide on rear disks, the SSBC is a good set up,......if you 4 wheel disk it, you can eliminate the proportioning valve, the rear line comes directly off the master, you'll need to supply a brake tee of course to "tee off" the front 2 lines


I highly recommend the 4 wheel disc conversion, your car would become a completely different animal, as far as braking performance!

4809927-0000a.jpg (66 downloads)
Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: DAYCLONA] #147923
11/14/08 09:11 PM
11/14/08 09:11 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 128
Tampa, FL
G
Garranimal Offline
member
Garranimal  Offline
member
G

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 128
Tampa, FL
Dayclona, I read your email but have a few questions. I am currently installing a manual SSBC force 10 4-wheel disc on my 69 superbee and had read all of the issues with the supplied brake booster. I was considering using the Wilwood cast aluminum booster which provides both a 7/8" bore and clean good looks. the issue i believe is that the brake piston rod does not snap/click into this booster like a normal chrysler M/C. Is that correct? If i were to use the wilwood M/C can i still run without a proportioning valve. I had actually never heard anyone suggest not using a proportioning valve, but i would like the idea if it is sound from an engineering standpoint. Please advise.

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: Garranimal] #147924
11/15/08 12:51 AM
11/15/08 12:51 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
DAYCLONA Offline
I Live Here
DAYCLONA  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
I was considering using the Wilwood cast aluminum booster which provides both a 7/8" bore and clean good looks. the issue i believe is that the brake piston rod does not snap/click into this booster like a normal chrysler M/C.





Garret,.....I'm assuming you mean the wilwood cast aluminun master cylinder,......I don't think they have a cast aluminum booster? .....the wilwood Master cylinder is a nice piece,....you would have to alter the end of your manual pedal rod, by either welding on a treaded sleeve 3/8-24 if I recall, just make sure the sleeve end that goes toward your rod end GOES OVER and gets welded, don't butt weld it (think safety!)......you may also be able to use a portion of the adjustable Mopar Performance Adjustable manual brake pedal rod?......if you prefere a factory master cylinder, I'd recommend a disk/drum 70 B body application....Cardone # M1614 If I recall, or AutoZone M1475....pic attached







I had actually never heard anyone suggest not using a proportioning valve, but i would like the idea if it is sound from an engineering standpoint. Please advise.





Garret, ONLY! If your running 4 wheel disc and a disc/drum master you will not need a proportioning valve or adjustable bias valve,....rear line will come directly off the master, the front lines will require a standard brake tee to tee off the front left and right lines when eliminating the proportioning valve.....I built many 4 wheel disc systems for early B bodies, as well as E bodies, and later B bodies using this system, tens of thousands of miles with no failures on my own cars, as well as customers cars......hope this helps you out

Mike

Re: What aftermarket Front Disc brake setup to use 69B body [Re: DAYCLONA] #147925
11/15/08 12:08 PM
11/15/08 12:08 PM
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,516
Santa Cruz, California
L
Lefty Offline
master
Lefty  Offline
master
L

Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,516
Santa Cruz, California
I have the Wilwood 7/8" master cylinder. I remember the push rod did snap into the piston pocket. I'll check today to see if it was the stock or aftermarket push rod that I used.


Page 1 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1