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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: MikeyT] #1458030 06/27/13 11:42 AM 06/27/13 11:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,060 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,060 U.S.S.A.	Quote: John, It is a mild 440 with reported 9:1 compression ratio in the rebuild. I set at 32 total because, I wanted to baseline it first before going incrementally changing it. It has run so well, I figured why fuss with it. Mike How hot does it get, that total is a little low? A local with a mild 440 is/was having hot running issues and it's timing was set at 34 last I knew ?

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: JohnRR] #1458031 06/27/13 12:14 PM 06/27/13 12:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI MikeyT master
MikeyT master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI	I have a 190 sat and 3 core aluminum rad (26") and stays at 1st line when cruising, she will get slowly warmer when sitting in traffic for periods, but it has been very warm and humid here too. Mike 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: MikeyT] #1458032 06/27/13 12:41 PM 06/27/13 12:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,060 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,060 U.S.S.A.	Vac advance hooked up? that may be helping the situation.

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: JohnRR] #1458033 06/27/13 02:58 PM 06/27/13 02:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 339 Gilroy,CA. mopardude318 enthusiast
mopardude318 enthusiast Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 339 Gilroy,CA.	Hmm...Think I should just try one, even without the vacuum advance, although Id like it for my street car. Thinking if I should also use that new firecore dist. with the associated coil, with this... I have a stock cast bottom end 318 w/ RHS heads-62cc, 202/160 valves, beehive springs-, RPM manifold, hughes 1.5 roller rockers, 234/244 @.050, 488/510, 112 LSA (eddy RPM cam), mated to a 4 speed, 3:55 sure grip. I currently have the older FBO ignition box & coil, with an older stock mp distributor. would like to try something different. 408 Stroker 533 HP 520 FT LBS...........................1970 Dart RMS AlterKation

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: ThermoQuad] #1458034 06/27/13 03:26 PM 06/27/13 03:26 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,179 California mickm master
mickm master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,179 California	Quote: Most mopar distributors are not phased properly, however the ones built by mallory with the adjustable advance plates seem to to be good in phasing. can you explain this? what does that mean, being phased properly for vacuum advance? i run vacuum advance with my MSD, and have never noticed any issues.

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: mickm] #1458035 06/27/13 06:08 PM 06/27/13 06:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,897 Oregon hooziewhatsit master
hooziewhatsit master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,897 Oregon	Quote: Quote: Most mopar distributors are not phased properly, however the ones built by mallory with the adjustable advance plates seem to to be good in phasing. can you explain this? what does that mean, being phased properly for vacuum advance? i run vacuum advance with my MSD, and have never noticed any issues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWMlNwGW0tM If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: mickm] #1458036 06/27/13 06:09 PM 06/27/13 06:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: can you explain this? what does that mean, being phased properly for vacuum advance? Vac adv is the only system that changes rotor phasing. Not being patronizing just clarifying in saying that rotor phasing is where the rotor tip is in relation to the cap terminal when it fires. Drill a 1/2" hole in the top flat of the dist cap 2/3 of the way between the center terminal & the #1 cap terminal & shine your timing light straight down thru that hole & see if the rotor is aligned dead on with the center of the cap terminal. The rotor blade is wide & the cap terminal is wide so you have some leeway but if the distance is too great it'll miss especially under load when the required voltage is the highest plus in addition to the arc distance you have the rotor tip distance. Check it with no vac on the line (unhooked or on ported) then check it off idle at high vacuum or use a vacuum pump at idle. This'll show you the arc it swings thru. different dists have different clocking (bottom tang position to top rotor position) but the phasing stays the same & the best way to change it is to redrill a new slot for the roll pin in the reluctor like Andy did way back with his machined reluctors. NAPA sells an Echlin rotor (MO3000) for $8 & change that has a .060" longer blade that will make up some of that distance if it is too excessive & it's a good item even if it ain't just to reduce the distance the spark has to jump. To answer your Q I do not know why If I read it right earlier that the revnator would not work with vacuum advance. & on buying one I believe if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is & it's too expensive. Me I'm going with a full 12V E coil (not sure which one but I want a round one) and a "dynamod" aftermarket HEI module mounted under my dist. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: JohnRR] #1458037 06/27/13 07:10 PM 06/27/13 07:10 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI MikeyT master
MikeyT master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,732 Watertown, WI	Quote: Vac advance hooked up? that may be helping the situation. Yes sir, I just got home and verified.... Maybe I am Just lucky Mike 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1458038 06/28/13 02:32 AM 06/28/13 02:32 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA B BulletBob master
BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	Quote: BulltBob, apparently the Kook Ade it produces is not Kook Ade ,its a placebo Keith Had you already informed the KoolAid or KookAde guy of your results before this thread? We don't want him driving trucks through your results! On the serious side though you have convinced me with your results

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: BulletBob] #1458039 06/28/13 05:15 AM 06/28/13 05:15 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado A a12superbee master
a12superbee master A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado	@ RapidRobert, thanks for the how to on the rotor phasing, it helped make the posted video clearer. I'll have to give it a try. Great thread guys, here, have a beer. I can't afford this. mark

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: drmopar] #1458040 07/16/13 05:15 PM 07/16/13 05:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,032 Ohio dobie super stock
dobie super stock Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,032 Ohio	Quote: I plugged mine in and it would not start the car. I plugged my orange box back in and it started right up. I have not had the time to call Troy yet to see what went wrong. Ok guys....I have the same issue. Just changed out the coil to a new Blaster 2, the supplied ballast resistor, and the Rev-n-nator. The Rev box wont start the car. Switched back to the orange box and she fired right up... I called Troy and left a message. Any ideas? Last edited by dobie; 07/16/13 05:25 PM. 1968 Plymouth Road Runner 383 4 speed

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: dobie] #1458041 07/16/13 08:07 PM 07/16/13 08:07 PM
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Yellow Fever super stock Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,083 SE PA	I'm considering the Pertronix Billet Distributor Ignitor III. I'm not worried about factory appearance. http://www.ebay.com/itm/380373428372?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 7779172-dist.jpg (185 downloads)

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: Yellow Fever] #1458042 07/16/13 10:52 PM 07/16/13 10:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,032 Ohio dobie super stock
dobie super stock Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,032 Ohio	So I went back out earlier and the car finally started. For some reason, it just didnt fire right away. I also got a call back from Troy, and we spoke for about 30 minutes. He explained how things worked, and gave me some tips for timing. I tried starting the car after it sat for a couple of hours and I gotta say that it seems like I didnt even get a full rotation on the starter and she fired right up. According to Troy, in a no-start condition like mine, its usually low voltage at cranking, just as was stated earlier in this thread. Im quite happy with the customer service I received. I havent driven the car yet, so I cant speak for that side of things. Based on the level of support and customer service however, I dont expect any further issues. 1968 Plymouth Road Runner 383 4 speed

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: dobie] #1458043 07/17/13 01:22 AM 07/17/13 01:22 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA B BulletBob master
BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	Quote: So I went back out earlier and the car finally started. For some reason, it just didnt fire right away. I also got a call back from Troy, and we spoke for about 30 minutes. He explained how things worked, and gave me some tips for timing. I tried starting the car after it sat for a couple of hours and I gotta say that it seems like I didnt even get a full rotation on the starter and she fired right up. According to Troy, in a no-start condition like mine, its usually low voltage at cranking, just as was stated earlier in this thread. Im quite happy with the customer service I received. I havent driven the car yet, so I cant speak for that side of things. Based on the level of support and customer service however, I dont expect any further issues. [/quot Looks like all the positives overwhelm the only negative in the bunch Starter drag will affect cranking voltage

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: BulletBob] #1458044 07/17/13 10:39 AM 07/17/13 10:39 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 697 Central IL 70Sbird mopar
70Sbird mopar Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 697 Central IL	I bought the Rev-n-nator for the Superbird, simply to get a good reliable ECU with a built in Rev limiter, not for any serious HP gain. I am happy with the way it runs, I also upgraded to the MSD Blaster coil - be sure to use the High vibration one if mounted sideways, like the stock configuration. The regular blaster coil is only recommended to be installed "standing up" with the coil wire at the top. I did not hook up the vacuum advance, just set my full advance at about 35 degrees max and the car runs great. This is a 4,000 lb car with a 500 cube stroker, 4-speed and 3.54 gears. About 3500 rpm @ 70 MPH. I drove the car back and forth to Detroit (900 mile trip) last month for the Aero meet and got just over 13.5 mpg running at about 72 mph. The vacuum advance may have helped some but I didnt think that was too bad.... I would buy one of these again. Definately better than the orange box that failed previously and the parts store replacement that I had on the car.

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: 70Sbird] #1458045 07/17/13 01:07 PM 07/17/13 01:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,960 Kenosha, Wi G GOLDMYN top fuel
GOLDMYN top fuel G Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,960 Kenosha, Wi	Quote: I bought the Rev-n-nator for the Superbird, simply to get a good reliable ECU with a built in Rev limiter, not for any serious HP gain. I am happy with the way it runs, I also upgraded to the MSD Blaster coil - be sure to use the High vibration one if mounted sideways, like the stock configuration. The regular blaster coil is only recommended to be installed "standing up" with the coil wire at the top. I did not hook up the vacuum advance, just set my full advance at about 35 degrees max and the car runs great. This is a 4,000 lb car with a 500 cube stroker, 4-speed and 3.54 gears. About 3500 rpm @ 70 MPH. I drove the car back and forth to Detroit (900 mile trip) last month for the Aero meet and got just over 13.5 mpg running at about 72 mph. The vacuum advance may have helped some but I didnt think that was too bad.... I would buy one of these again. Definately better than the orange box that failed previously and the parts store replacement that I had on the car. *** What did you use for a ballast resister? Semper Fi

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: GOLDMYN] #1458046 07/17/13 03:08 PM 07/17/13 03:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 697 Central IL 70Sbird mopar
70Sbird mopar Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 697 Central IL	Goldmyn, I used a replacement ballast, the same one I had previously (I dont remember the ohms) and am using a regular mopar electronic (stock) distributor, not the MP aftermarket one.

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: 70Sbird] #1458047 07/17/13 06:18 PM 07/17/13 06:18 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,960 Kenosha, Wi G GOLDMYN top fuel
GOLDMYN top fuel G Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,960 Kenosha, Wi	If you get a chance, the ohms # is stamped on the end. Thanks Semper Fi

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