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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1458010
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Ive read all the post before buying one.
I was sure the original HP gains stated were fiction but I kept am open mind.
All I can say is this product works just fine in my application.

It seemed to me that all the back and forth was the 40 HP claims that I myself never considered to be accurate.
That being said, I do not use vac advance and drive my car all the time. The farthest I have went was 140 miles round trip. Car ran perfect.
I personally never expected anything more than a better alternative to the stock MP ECU and that is what I got.
I would recommend the product solely on its attributes, Choice is always up to the end user.



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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: JohnRR] #1458011
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Sounds like the same crew of sword swallowers that love the CCJ from a certian board sponsor and it's condescending [censored] spokesmouth.

I'm pretty sure I know who that is!



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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: Hrtbkr] #1458012
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I was going to buy one just for better reliability and the rev limiter. I've always considered the 40hp claims to be....optimistic at best. Dave D. got 15hp on his Factory Stock Hemi Bee which probably means I'd get around 5hp. Not sure I want to have to screw around with everything to get the vacuum advance to work though....

Dave


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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: DPelletier] #1458013
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So can one just simply unplug the vacuum advance hose from the distributor and cap it?

Will this take care of the problem with the vacuum advance?


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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: dobie] #1458014
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Yes,and thats what is recommended. It may hurt fuel economy slightly
Keith

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1458015
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How would you know if vac advance is causing an issue with that box? Pinging at some RPM/load range?


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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: hooziewhatsit] #1458016
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It's funny that during all the talk I've seen about this product it never seems to produce a single bit of info about why people usually buy the thing: a plug and play rev limiter. That said, can anyone tell me how THAT part of it works?


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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: hooziewhatsit] #1458017
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with mine it was hard to start with the vac advance hooked up,i put my old orange box back and it starts easy.i will try it with vac advance plugged and put the revnnator back on

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: Commando1] #1458018
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OK. Heated controversy starts here. Haters, man your flame throwers.

About six months ago, I got into a very heated discussion with them in another forum.

I am NOT getting into details. You love them, hate them, or could care less. Things got ugly fast when I disputed their following claim:
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4. 10-40 HP GAINS - depending on engine application. Kicks butt over all stock Chrysler boxes (orange, chrome, etc.) and meets or exceeds any leading after-market ignition systems.




Their proponents started a below the belt name calling attack but the bottom line was clearly this:

They NEVER, I repeat, NEVER, were able to produce actual proof that their product was anything more than a empty magic box. Every question I threw at them to explain something was only replied with "you're a hater, our customers love us, they say..." blah, blah, blah.

I tried my hardest to keep the discussion at an intellectual level and they could never respond except in a schoolyard bully fashion.

I'm still reading everything they say trying to convince myself they have defied the laws of electrical science. To this day, I'm still calling it a product that does nothing more than give a great placebo effect. If you mentally want it to give you out of the box 10-40 hp gain, it will give you a 10-40 hp in your mind. Their "dyno proven tests" are so flawed, you can drive a truck through the holes.

OK. I am not going to respond to the hate replies from those that drink the Kool-ade. Be happy with your Rev-N-Nator.




Have you ever used one?

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: bull] #1458019
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The rev limiter works great,within a few rpm of the dyno's digital readout . The dyno uses a 60 tooth wheel and magnetic pickup. Most aftermarket tachs aren't as accurate.
Its adjustable in 500 rpm steps with a push button.
You are correct,originally it was being designed to be comparable with an Orange box but including a rev limiter. The power gains came later on so I don't se why people get so whiny about it.
Keith

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1458020
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Keith,
What flavor of KoolAid does your dyno produce?


Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: BulletBob] #1458021
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Here is a little real world stuff... I actually put one in my road runner about a month ago. I will say this I absolutely love it. Here is why, the car starts like a brand new car, it did give a little bit more throttle response and get this, the bird even gained a few MPG's too. This is in my mild 440, so not a race car. .. I am very happy with it.

Mike


PS Keith, thanks for all the testing


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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: MikeyT] #1458022
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I didn't mean to jack the thread from the OP but you've all convinced me to go ahead and drop the 2 bills.

An updated orange box and rev limiter is all some of us are asking for.


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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: a12superbee] #1458023
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ummmm....the vacuum advance with any hot sparking ignition system will cause problems if the distributor is not phased correctly.

Street cars should have vacuum advance.

Most mopar distributors are not phased properly, however the ones built by mallory with the adjustable advance plates seem to to be good in phasing.

I also would like to see how well the revinator [sic] performs between idle and 3000 rpm but that is asking too much

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: ThermoQuad] #1458024
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FWIW I have a vacuum switch that switches the vacuum advance in and out with my MP ignition. In for gas mileage, out for low speed town driving. I've always wondered why a lot of 440's, with all types of ignitions, have the vacuum advance disconnected. I had a miss at 2200 RPM's that I could never fix, pulling the advance fixed it. Adjusting the MP distributor advance from one end to the other did nothing. I have not tried a different distributor.

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I run my initial at 14 degrees timing and total at 32 all in by 3000, and run my vacuum advance with it. The car runs well, maybe I am doing it wrong....no pinging


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Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: BulletBob] #1458026
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BulltBob,
apparently the Kook Ade it produces is not Kook Ade ,its a placebo
Keith

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: TB3CUDA] #1458027
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with mine it was hard to start with the vac advance hooked up,i put my old orange box back and it starts easy.i will try it with vac advance plugged and put the revnnator back on




Did you check the timing when you switched over to the revnator or just ASSuME that the timing would be correct?

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: MikeyT] #1458028
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I run my initial at 14 degrees timing and total at 32 all in by 3000, and run my vacuum advance with it. The car runs well, maybe I am doing it wrong....no pinging




what engine ? or is 32 enough total mechanical with the rev ?

Re: REV-N-NATOR? [Re: JohnRR] #1458029
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John,

It is a mild 440 with reported 9:1 compression ratio in the rebuild. I set at 32 total because, I wanted to baseline it first before going incrementally changing it. It has run so well, I figured why fuss with it.

Mike


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