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Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? #1456198
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This is for a HEMI

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456199
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yes,this company can make anything you want

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Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: boatracer572] #1456200
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Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456201
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Nice!!! But something tells me I might not be able to afford em!!! LOL

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456202
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$1300 a set,I have two sets one with bushed rollers and a set with needle rollers.most of the NHRA pro stock field is running cam fx lifters.

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Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: boatracer572] #1456203
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wow, thats more than I would like to spend.

My cam is just a street solid roller grind.

I have crowers and they are ,903" and I have too much lifter to bore clearance.

I was wondering if any off the shelf solid roller lifter comes in a true ,904" diameter.

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456204
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Get them coated


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Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: Leon441] #1456205
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I just ran the P2843177, but they also are not a true 904.
I think they are .0005 under.



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Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: BB65Barracuda] #1456206
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Why would you not just bush the lifter bores?

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: mac56] #1456207
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Why would you not just bush the lifter bores?




they are already bronze bushed but I have like 0.003 clearance at least.

I was wondering if I could get off the shelf roller lifters that are a true ,904"

but I guess IM gonna pull the trigger, remove the old bushings install new ones and incorporate an oiling hole given the bushings currently in my block are blind and I kinda dont like that. Id rather have some oil in there....cant hurt!

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456208
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Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456209
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Why would you not just bush the lifter bores?




they are already bronze bushed but I have like 0.003 clearance at least.

I was wondering if I could get off the shelf roller lifters that are a true ,904"

but I guess IM gonna pull the trigger, remove the old bushings install new ones and incorporate an oiling hole given the bushings currently in my block are blind and I kinda dont like that. Id rather have some oil in there....cant hurt!



If your already bushed Domingo pushing new bushings in is definitely the way to go.

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456210
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A few thousandths(for clearance) won't make any difference for what your wanting. It's a street car and not a super/stocker.. right?
Jesel makes a true 904 lifter. They run about 3k new. I have a couple sets of barely used
but they take *special block prep*..machining.

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: 52savoy] #1456211
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A few thousandths(for clearance) won't make any difference for what your wanting. It's a street car and not a super/stocker.. right?
Jesel makes a true 904 lifter. They run about 3k new. I have a couple sets of barely used
but they take *special block prep*..machining.




Like I said, I already have bronze lifter bushings n my block....and the clearance is more than 0.025"

I can fit a 0.0025" gauge in between the lifter bore and lifter.

Seems the true ,904" lifters are more expensive than replacing my lifter bushings so I guess Im gonna replace my lifter bushings.

In any case, my lifter bushings are also blind, so this time around Id like to incorporate a small lubrication hole in them.

Would you guys run it like this????

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Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456212
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0.0025"

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Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456213
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I'd trust the reading of a pair of dial calipers before I'd trust sticking a feeler gauge in there

For an accurate measurement, dial bore gauge

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: roadhazard] #1456214
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I'd trust the reading of a pair of dial calipers before I'd trust sticking a feeler gauge in there

For an accurate measurement, dial bore gauge




that is not the the best way to measure the clearance , an inside snap gauge would be better.

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: JohnRR] #1456215
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I'd trust the reading of a pair of dial calipers before I'd trust sticking a feeler gauge in there

For an accurate measurement, dial bore gauge




that is not the the best way to measure the clearance , an inside snap gauge would be better.


Or a barrel micrometer ( I hope that is the correct name of them), adjustable small hole gauge


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Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1456216
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I know thats not the right way of measuring the clearance.

But if I can stick a feeler gauge thats 0,0025" in there common sense tells me that actual clearance is even more than that.

I just did that quickly when I noticed it had a lot of slop, since using my dial caliper is kinda hard on there.....

I would do it with a dial bore gauge....if I had one handy.

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456217
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Ill take it to the machine shop to get an accurate measurement with a dial bore gauge before doing anything else....

I cant get an accurate measurement with a caliper.

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456218
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Domingo unless that clearance has been there all along (oversize from machine shop) a bigger lifter wouldn't be the way to go. I assume that is wear and if so the bore will not be round.

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456219
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But if I can stick a feeler gauge thats 0,0025" in there common sense tells me that actual clearance is even more than that





My first thought. It sounds like re-bushing would be the most cost effective fix.

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Its not wear, the engine has been run for a very short period. those bushings are fresh.

I will re-bush and add oiling holes.

A true ,904" lifter is not cost effective from what I have seen.

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456221
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thanks for all the replies!

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Maybe it slipped by.. but lifters need the clearance.

Not sure what the factory recommends but Jesel says.... http://www.jesel.com/innovation/lifters/bushings-and-retainers.html

and... http://www.dartheads.com/dartboard/archive/index.php/t-2429.html

Get and accurate measurement and then decide

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Maybe it slipped by.. but lifters need the clearance.

Not sure what the factory recommends but Jesel says.... http://www.jesel.com/innovation/lifters/bushings-and-retainers.html

and... http://www.dartheads.com/dartboard/archive/index.php/t-2429.html

Get and accurate measurement and then decide




Jesel reccomends 0.002"

My lifters are defintely too loose in those lifter bores. If that feeler gauge fits in between the lifter body and bushing I'm guessing I got 0.003" clearance at least. Im pulling the trigger and replacing them all, and incorporating a lubrication hole as well....

thanks for the replies guys!

Re: Can u get a solid roller lifter that's a true ,904"? [Re: domingo] #1456224
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Maybe it slipped by.. but lifters need the clearance.

Not sure what the factory recommends but Jesel says.... http://www.jesel.com/innovation/lifters/bushings-and-retainers.html

and... http://www.dartheads.com/dartboard/archive/index.php/t-2429.html

Get and accurate measurement and then decide




Jesel reccomends 0.002"

My lifters are defintely too loose in those lifter bores. If that feeler gauge fits in between the lifter body and bushing I'm guessing I got 0.003" clearance at least. Im pulling the trigger and replacing them all, and incorporating a lubrication hole as well....

thanks for the replies guys!




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