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Them's the brakes? #1449516
06/08/13 09:53 PM
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This morning, I found a small-ish puddle of brake fluid next to the left rear wheel. I drove the car around, came home, and parked it. The drum brakes worked as good as always, and when I parked it, I wiped the backing plate down.
It's been a full day, and there is not a drip of fluid. I am assuming it came from that left rear brake cylinder, but now it is not leaking.
Any ideas?


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*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC



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Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449517
06/08/13 09:58 PM
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Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449518
06/08/13 10:23 PM
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Any ideas?


Pull the drums & ID which wheel cyl is leaking/replace it/bleed it out


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Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: RapidRobert] #1449519
06/09/13 12:45 PM
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Of course I can swap the part out, but I am more curious why it would leave a puddle (it did sit for a couple months), but now it all seems fine. If it no longer leaks, can I assume I don't need to replace the part?


*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC



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Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449520
06/09/13 12:59 PM
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but I am more curious why it would leave a puddle (it did sit for a couple months), but now it all seems fine. If it no longer leaks, can I assume I don't need to replace the part?


(1) not sure why but brake fluid/sealing behavior is erratic at best (2) No as it will again it's just a matter of when. Brake psi can reach 1500 or more & if gravity made it leak (even tho it was sitting) that doesn't speak well for the integrity of that particular wheel cyls' bore/seals


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Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449521
06/09/13 01:52 PM
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This morning, I found a small-ish puddle of brake fluid next to the left rear wheel. I drove the car around, came home, and parked it. The drum brakes worked as good as always, and when I parked it, I wiped the backing plate down.
It's been a full day, and there is not a drip of fluid. I am assuming it came from that left rear brake cylinder, but now it is not leaking.
Any ideas?




Couple things.
Is it possible that when you drove it before the puddle you applied the brakes harder than the test drive after clean up? It's entirely possible that the wheel cylinder is only leaking during heavy pressure. It needs to be rebuilt or replaced.

It's also possible (though maybe not likely) that is did leak after clean up but simply hasn't dripped on the floor yet.

Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1449522
06/09/13 02:07 PM
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if i leaked once it,ll do it again,hopfully no in traffic.brake leaks DONT FIX THEM SELVES.

Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449523
06/09/13 06:27 PM
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Probally one of them evil eastern OR conservatives came by, after seeing teh car sit so long, and put a little brake fluid on the ground so they could use that as a negotating tool to buy that old heap Maybe it was one of the rich Chinese car buyers put some on the ground with the same intent Maybe it was one of the NSA envoirmentalist activist that did it wanting to have it towed off and scrapped as being just to unsafe to be on the streets of Portland
Take the drum off and fix it, it ain't going to get any better

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Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449524
06/09/13 07:32 PM
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This morning, I found a small-ish puddle of brake fluid next to the left rear wheel. I drove the car around, came home, and parked it. The drum brakes worked as good as always, and when I parked it, I wiped the backing plate down.
It's been a full day, and there is not a drip of fluid. I am assuming it came from that left rear brake cylinder, but now it is not leaking.
Any ideas?









Do you have a dog?.....if so maybe it wasn't brake fluid, might be pee!...DAMHIK

Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: DAYCLONA] #1449525
06/09/13 09:40 PM
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I climbed under the car today, and the left rear cylinder is definitely leaking. Tomorrow, I will pull the wheel and drum off to see what's going on.
It's been almost 5 years since finishing the restoration, and I cannot recall if I used silicon or DOT 3 fluid. Is there a way to tell the difference?


*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC



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Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449526
06/09/13 09:53 PM
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DOT 5 silicone is dyed a bluish purple color. Dot 3 or 4 is the standard clear/very light amber color.

Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1449527
06/09/13 10:03 PM
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Cool - I am using DOT 3 or 4. I have read it's best to replace cylinders in pairs. True? Or, can I replace just the one? Sorry - I know this is maintenance 101, but it's been ages since I did this kind of stuff.


*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC



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Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449528
06/09/13 10:11 PM
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They really should be done in pairs. If one is leaking, how long till the other goes, AND you want equal resistance/application of force from side to side.

Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449529
06/09/13 10:11 PM
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I would do both. For a few dollars and minutes it's one less thing to worry about. Your car is worth it.


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Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1449530
06/09/13 10:15 PM
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They really should be done in pairs. If one is leaking, how long till the other goes, AND you want equal resistance/application of force from side to side.




Interesting, never heard that before.

Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: BDW] #1449531
06/09/13 10:20 PM
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Funny, they were brand new when I restored the car, and I have only put 4 thousand miles or so on the thing over the past few years. I didn't expect them to give up so easily. Looks like tomorrow I pretend to be a mechanic.


*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC



A mall cop is in our midst.
Re: Them's the brakes? [Re: new bee] #1449532
06/09/13 10:31 PM
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As a bonus you will get a rear brake fluid change. It wouldn't hurt to flush a couple pints of fluid through the front while you are at it and change the front fluid also.







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