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Re: General update on blocks [Re: 72Swinger] #1444817
06/05/13 03:58 PM
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It's really no problem....it's just that the situation hasn't changed from several months ago.

The block isn't sold bare any longer, so it has to be a short block assy. As painful as that may be, at least there are about a dozen of them readily available.

Same with heads, it is no problem getting them, there are about a dozen of each part number available. But they are not sold bare. For anything other than a stocker the Eagle and Apache heads seem to have taken over.


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Re: General update on blocks [Re: ZIPPY] #1444818
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It's really no problem....it's just that the situation hasn't changed from several months ago.

The block isn't sold bare any longer, so it has to be a short block assy. As painful as that may be, at least there are about a dozen of them readily available.

Same with heads, it is no problem getting them, there are about a dozen of each part number available. But they are not sold bare. For anything other than a stocker the Eagle and Apache heads seem to have taken over.




I'm confused. R U taking about the 6.1 block only comes as a short block?
If yes do you have a part #?
If this is true I don't understand why Fiat sold so many bare 6.1 block.
According to INDY they bought almost all of them at a really cheap price.
Even if they had really bad core shift why?
Obviously the short block are for warranty?

Re: General update on blocks [Re: MattW] #1444819
06/05/13 09:27 PM
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The R4 is still on back order? They have been on back order for years now


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Re: General update on blocks [Re: MattW] #1444820
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R U taking about the 6.1 block only comes as a short block?
yes If yes do you have a part #?
rl159561ae If this is true I don't understand why Fiat sold so many bare 6.1 block. technically not fiat, more accurately mopar, unless that was intended as a friendly insult... in which case please continue as I enjoy those and please keep them coming .... here is a quote from an earlier post of mine to help explain
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when Saltillo changed over to Eagle/Apache they were all done with 6.1 blocks and they would never make them again....


According to INDY they bought almost all of them at a really cheap price.Even if they had really bad core shift why? Sorry I can't tell you what happened there, although I don't agree with the situation I do know Indy is sitting on big quantities. Obviously the short block are for warranty? could be, but I have no way of finding that out as I'm not involved with that process, somebody else would have to take a guess

On to the next question-----

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The R4 is still on back order?




Actually the R4 blocks are readily available now, as said...whatever the hold up was did take quite awhile to work out....but they're in stock now.

P5007151AC shows 15 in whse inventory (the p-head block)
P5007270AC shows 5 in whse inventory (the wedge block)


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Re: General update on blocks [Re: ZIPPY] #1444821
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Cost??

Re: General update on blocks [Re: dare_dude] #1444822
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Prices aren't allowed in this area, Best to contact an authorized dealer for pricing.



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Re: General update on blocks [Re: ZIPPY] #1444823
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Thanks. And NO it wasn't meant as an insult. You have always answered my dumb questions. I try now and then to get info on G3 stuff. I have purchase quite a few parts and without your help I would still be looking.
Keep us posted.
Thanks Matt.

Re: General update on blocks [Re: MattW] #1444824
06/06/13 03:45 PM
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We (Indy) Only have about 25 Blocks left, not nearly the quantity we had when Chrysler wanted to get rid of all of them.

Re: General update on blocks [Re: joshking440] #1444825
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And as far as core shift.....

Its funny what people come up with for an excuse when they have to explain why they just sold every block they had in inventory.

The blocks we bought were ready for assembly at the factory....

Wonder what block the fastest 6.1 drag pak cars in the country are running.

Re: General update on blocks [Re: MattW] #1444826
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insults can be fun, when they're done creatively and with good taste and a sense of humor

It is understandable how frustrating it can be just to find parts...to get ready for a big project, ready to lay down the money and all, then get stuck because the most important piece of the puzzle, the foundation for everything, is on intergalactic backorder.

Just did some more editing to the main list, things are looking pretty good for the most part.


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Re: General update on blocks [Re: joshking440] #1444827
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Quote:

And as far as core shift.....

Its funny what people come up with for an excuse when they have to explain why they just sold every block they had in inventory.

The blocks we bought were ready for assembly at the factory....

Wonder what block the fastest 6.1 drag pak cars in the country are running.




Let's say that this is true. It does make sense to sell what you have for below market value, then produce more.
IIRC even IF they had bad core shift your warranty replacement is only good for one year.
Cheaper to use them then to cast new ones.

Re: General update on blocks [Re: MattW] #1444828
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That wasnt in reference to you at all Zippy sir.

I just know enough of the back story that when we bought all the blocks that they had, a few months later they called us back and offered us another batch but at a higher price. We declined and they really did scrap those blocks.

Re: General update on blocks [Re: joshking440] #1444829
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Stock 6.1 Short blocks are about 2995.00

6.4 heads are about 1080 a pair fully assembled with spark plugs installed...LOL

Re: General update on blocks [Re: joshking440] #1444830
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Can somebody posted the part # for a complete 6.4 production engine. I can't find it.

Re: General update on blocks [Re: joshking440] #1444831
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Stock 6.1 Short blocks are about 2995.00

6.4 heads are about 1080 a pair fully assembled with spark plugs installed...LOL


Ya but now the powers tobe nail on for $150.00 core charge on each head for a new part

Re: General update on blocks [Re: joshking440] #1444832
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That wasnt in reference to you at all Zippy sir.






Understood and no problem

I was around when Indy bought all those blocks and remember that whole deal.


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Re: General update on blocks [Re: MattW] #1444833
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Can somebody posted the part # for a complete 6.4 production engine. I can't find it.







Re: General update on blocks [Re: MattW] #1444834
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Can somebody posted the part # for a complete 6.4 production engine. I can't find it.











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Re: General update on blocks [Re: MattW] #1444835
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My kid ordered a RL038292FA non mds 6.4, I believe it's complete.

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Re: General update on blocks [Re: Just-a-dart] #1444836
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Thanks trying to keep all the part # in one place.
Zippy yours did not work

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