Need Traction
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05/27/13 08:51 AM
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The only way to get traction now is to fill stock tank.I would like not to have the extra weight or have to get bigger tires.69 coronet 3500 lbs with me in it.318,low gear 904 4200 stall,4.10 DL,full cal trac system shocks on #5, lower hole,275/60/15 mt ET steet radials,poly lcr busings,moog offset uppers,oh tires 18 psi.,Tiers spin first 20 or 30 ft then grab.WT dist.53/47.Need low cost option,What do you think?
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 09:06 AM
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The only way to get traction now is to fill stock tank.I would like not to have the extra weight or have to get bigger tires.69 coronet 3500 lbs with me in it.318,low gear 904 4200 stall,4.10 DL,full cal trac system shocks on #5, lower hole,275/60/15 mt ET steet radials,poly lcr busings,moog offset uppers,oh tires 18 psi.,Tiers spin first 20 or 30 ft then grab.WT dist.53/47.Need low cost option,What do you think?
Low cost? A set of used slicks...
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 11:13 AM
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The only way to get traction now is to fill stock tank.I would like not to have the extra weight or have to get bigger tires.69 coronet 3500 lbs with me in it.318,low gear 904 4200 stall,4.10 DL,full cal trac system shocks on #5, lower hole,275/60/15 mt ET steet radials,poly lcr busings,moog offset uppers,oh tires 18 psi.,Tiers spin first 20 or 30 ft then grab.WT dist.53/47.Need low cost option,What do you think?
What have you tried for different settings... have you tried moving the caltracs to the upper hole,.. you might need to hit the tire harder to plant it... then you might need to soften the extension on the shocks... how easy is it to move the front end and how far does it move on the front... your gonna need all you can get for front end lift with that engine in a big heavy car thats nose heavy EDIT The best thing you can do is video the launch so you KNOW what the facts are
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 12:12 PM
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MR P With a floorjack it comes up 4in.before the tires start to come off the floor. Its fairly easy to lift up at bumper, its got 90/10s,do you mean with shocks disconnected? no I haven't tried top hole,i thought that would make the tire spin worse.....my best has been [Email]13.03@103[/Email] 1.80 sixty.Bill
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 03:38 PM
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MR P With a floorjack it comes up 4in.before the tires start to come off the floor. Its fairly easy to lift up at bumper, its got 90/10s,do you mean with shocks disconnected? no I haven't tried top hole,i thought that would make the tire spin worse.....my best has been [Email]13.03@103[/Email] 1.80 sixty.Bill
You could use 1" or more of lift which would mean another shock or use a shock extension... see if your shock is limiting the travel... you might want to cut the upper arm bumper down also
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 03:48 PM
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I used the M/T ET Streets(13.50x30x15), ET Street Radials(315x60x15) and the M/T ET drag slicks(31x105.x15W), the ET Street work better on a bad track than the ET Street Radails did, the slicks worked the best BTW, the radails are faster than the ET Street bias plys on a good track, not so on the street or on a fair to bad track. I'm suprised that yours hooked with your foot at WOT Mine would go sideways unless I lifted or shifted into 2nd gear as soon as it started to spin, even then I needed to lift a little while shifting it into 2nd gear IHTHs
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 04:14 PM
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I used the M/T ET Streets(13.50x30x15), ET Street Radials(315x60x15) and the M/T ET drag slicks(31x105.x15W), the ET Street work better on a bad track than the ET Street Radails did, the slicks worked the best BTW, the radails are faster than the ET Street bias plys on a good track, not so on the street or on a fair to bad track. I'm suprised that yours hooked with your foot at WOT Mine would go sideways unless I lifted or shifted into 2nd gear as soon as it started to spin, even then I needed to lift a little while shifting it into 2nd gear IHTHs
Cab... its a 318 in a heavy B-body thats nose heavy
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 07:00 PM
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Mr P upper arm bumpers are gone,I thank ride height is about 1 in. higher than stock.upper arms hit the frame.I will try upper hole,if that don't help maybe I wll get some 315/60/15s and put 4.56 gears in,its going though the traps at only 5300 any way,thanks for the replies..bill
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 08:11 PM
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Mr P upper arm bumpers are gone,I thank ride height is about 1 in. higher than stock.upper arms hit the frame.I will try upper hole,if that don't help maybe I wll get some 315/60/15s and put 4.56 gears in,its going though the traps at only 5300 any way,thanks for the replies..bill
When you raise the body you reduce the travel... you could use the gear.. a 318 isnt gonna make much torque so the gear will help that also
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 08:41 PM
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currently I cross the line at 5300 with a 28in tire,i want to be at 6000 with a 30in tire,would 4.88 gear get me there? thanks.Is 53/47 considered nose heavy?
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Re: Need Traction
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05/27/13 09:24 PM
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currently I cross the line at 5300 with a 28in tire,i want to be at 6000 with a 30in tire,would 4.88 gear get me there? thanks.Is 53/47 considered nose heavy?
Plug your numbers in one of these calculators... http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm yes I would say 53/47 is nose heavy.. be glad its not a BB or it would be worse
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Re: Need Traction
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05/28/13 12:04 AM
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Mike....I have tried to use that calculator many times before and it never cam out right. been playing it just now realized you need to adjust for converter slip.
Yeah you have to figure conv slippage for the top end rpm... as a rule I use 7% but if you know yours just add that in
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Re: Need Traction
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05/28/13 08:43 AM
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I run the same width MT tire(275/50) and I couldn't make mine spin if I wanted to. My 60 is kind of soft at a best of 1.62 but its done that same 60 at 5 different tracks. It doesn't seem to care how much air pressure either, I have run from 14-18psi with no troubles. Your sure your front suspension moves freely?
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
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