Leon,

I thought I had put in my post. I am using a Bruno. I just had it made in Feb. They had a NASCAR bell to take the pattern from. They never said anything about making one specifically for the R5 block.

I am going to run a Meziere flex plate/flywheel and either a 7 or 8" convertor. I also wanted to keep the R5 starter location. maybe that and the Bruno is why they cannot do it specifically for the Bruno.

Sorry about not giving that detail about the Bruno I thought I had it in there.

thanks for the heads up on the adapter Bob makes. I should get a hold of Bob before I go having an adaptor made.

I am not worried about the firewall area. It is going in a full tube car. I am hoping to still use the NASCAR headers too.

Some aftermarket bells have enough material to redrill for a R5 pattern. Then you just need a flywheel with 130 tooth starter gear. Then just run the mopar starter. Pretty simple. It is not legal with SFI to redrill the bell. That is considered a modification. If you get the same thing done with a Browell bell you can bolt right up and use a Mopar starter. Less stuff to do with the flywheel if you have a chevy style flange on the crank.

The R5 to Mopar small block overlaps the dowel pins and a couple bolt holes. The above the starter is almost unuseable. I don't know on the R5 to chevy bell. Have seen them but, don't remember how bad it is. I think the dowels are better.

Hi Leon,

I am attaching the hole patterns provided by Browell. The dark blue is the BB mopar hole pattern that Browell uses on thier bells. The light blue is the R5 bell pattern. I am still able to use the NASCAR starter, the Mezeire flex plate will have the 8 bolt GM R07 pattern which I have, 130 teeth. All custom and all billet. pricey but I figure if I am engineering this thing I want it right the first time.

I would like to keep the SFI cert.

I will PM you Tony as Rick does not need this post hijacked any further.

I went over to Rick's on Saturday, that's gonna be one nasty motor

Maybe I can explain where Tony left off. Some bolt holes on the R5 were in the radius of the Browel bell. So they sold him a bell for a BB Mopar and then adapter to go back to R5. This is probably a better adapter as no bolt holes or dowels will be close to each other.

When Bob made my adapter,he advised me to get the ultra bell for s.b. mopar vs my b.b. mopar so it would get me more use of all the bolt holes.