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Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? #1437014 05/15/13 08:19 PM 05/15/13 08:19 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Pulled them out of storage last year, pulled the top off and found this mess. They had been sitting for a decade and had been fine when pulled off the car. Units are 4758S and 4761S 500's and worked fabulous on my 440. I had one of two plans- Take these two, strip them down to the bare castings and load glass bead into the sandblast cabinet and see how they clean up. $100 worth of kits and floats and let'er rip. Or just simply purchase a pair of reman Edelbrocks 500 or 600 cfm from Summit and call it a day. Thoughts? 7707216-DSCN6879.JPG (185 downloads)

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: gdonovan] #1437015 05/15/13 08:20 PM 05/15/13 08:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Second pic. 7707219-DSCN6880.JPG (139 downloads)

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: gdonovan] #1437016 05/15/13 09:01 PM 05/15/13 09:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Thoughts? Soak em in the bucket of carb soup for several days then bristle brush & see what you get. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: gdonovan] #1437017 05/15/13 09:05 PM 05/15/13 09:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	Maybe just look around at swap meets, etc for a better couple if you don't want to go to the expense of new? I just picked up a 9500 Carter on Sunday in a package deal with a 9625, an intake, etc. at a swap meet.

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: OzHemi] #1437018 05/15/13 09:09 PM 05/15/13 09:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,411 northeast ohio H hulmule pro stock
hulmule pro stock H Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,411 northeast ohio	ask Scott Harms see what he thinks. Probally has same carbs 1969 Dodge Coronet R/T Convertible 1979 LiL Red x2 2012 Yellow Jacket 2006 mega cab 1977 Trailduster 1979 Trailduster

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: OzHemi] #1437019 05/16/13 06:32 AM 05/16/13 06:32 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: Maybe just look around at swap meets, etc for a better couple if you don't want to go to the expense of new? . I'm working under time constraints so waiting for a GOOD pair to show up at a swap meet isn't an option. $250 a pop at Summit is not terrible, but I'd rather put that money towards rims.

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: gdonovan] #1437020 05/16/13 07:00 AM 05/16/13 07:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn.	Glass bead them, they'll look next to new, a couple carb kits and they'll run great. Dave

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: quickd100] #1437021 05/16/13 08:40 AM 05/16/13 08:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,574 Lakeland FL F floridian pro stock
floridian pro stock F Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,574 Lakeland FL	Glass beaded the original carb off of my 67 R/T.. Came out great.. Should say this was after trying soda blasting, and walnut shells.. they didn't work, at least not in the cabinet blaster...

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: floridian] #1437022 05/16/13 12:26 PM 05/16/13 12:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	What you're showing isn't that bad, it'll clean up with some carb cleaner in a bucket and a little time spent with a brass bristle wire brush. Someday I need to post a picture of a 4966 I bought that "needs rebuilding". R. Heck, I'll pay shipping if you want to mail them to me!

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: dogdays] #1437023 05/16/13 12:55 PM 05/16/13 12:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I can restore those to look and run as good as new, no problem. *I just recieved these original 409 carbs in to restore, definately one of the more challenging projects I've taken on but believe it or not I've brought worse ones back from the dead, yours would be a walk in the park by comparisons! 7707956-RealFine409s.jpg (112 downloads)

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1437024 05/16/13 01:00 PM 05/16/13 01:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,047 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,047 U.S.S.A.	Quote: I can restore those to look and run as good as new, no problem. I don't think that's an option at this point? Quote: I'm working under time constraints so waiting for a GOOD pair to show up at a swap meet isn't an option. $250 a pop at Summit is not terrible, but I'd rather put that money towards rims. What's the time from you getting one to shipping it back out? Say something like a new unused Thunder carb to make it look like an original carb ?

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: JohnRR] #1437025 05/16/13 01:12 PM 05/16/13 01:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Hi John, my lead time varies based on my work load, I'm generally 6-8 weeks out. I can sometimes do better if there's a rush job but that's on a case by case basis. As far as your Thunder carb body refinishing request goes, that's a process I use when building my Hemi clones but that's not a service I offer on its own.

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1437026 05/16/13 01:29 PM 05/16/13 01:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: I can restore those to look and run as good as new, no problem. If I was doing a restoration Scott you would be the first man I'd call but a restoration isn't required for this little operation ;-) I'm just looking to put the dual quads back on the GTX, nothing special required. Either I'll get these working or just pop for a pair of remans and sell these off as cores (with full disclosure) to offset some of the cost. Going to pickup 50 pounds of glass bead from Tractor Supply tonight and see how it goes, nothing to lose. Nothing is bound up, just corrosion in the bowls. The outside of the carbs look better than the insides!

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: gdonovan] #1437027 05/16/13 01:52 PM 05/16/13 01:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	No problem brudda! Just letting you know those are savable. I could use the cores if you end up getting rid of them.

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: gdonovan] #1437028 05/16/13 01:58 PM 05/16/13 01:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: Quote: I can restore those to look and run as good as new, no problem. If I was doing a restoration Scott you would be the first man I'd call but a restoration isn't required for this little operation ;-) I'm just looking to put the dual quads back on the GTX, nothing special required. Either I'll get these working or just pop for a pair of remans and sell these off as cores (with full disclosure) to offset some of the cost. Going to pickup 50 pounds of glass bead from Tractor Supply tonight and see how it goes, nothing to lose. Nothing is bound up, just corrosion in the bowls. The outside of the carbs look better than the insides! When you're done glass beading,make sure you get "ALL" the glass out of everywhere,you will have a nightmare if you don't !

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1437029 05/16/13 09:22 PM 05/16/13 09:22 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: When you're done glass beading,make sure you get "ALL" the glass out of everywhere,you will have a nightmare if you don't ! Oh ya- Soaked in a 5 gallon pail of soap and water, rinsed, blown out, agitated in the bucket again and a final rinse followed with a good carb clean blasting. The worse one cleaned up nice, one primary jet is being stubborn though. I'm letting it sit overnight soaking in liquid wrench. I might leave it alone since it ran well or I might bang an extractor in the jet and dig it out. I don't like the idea of having one stuck in there. I didn't get crazy cleaning certain areas since they are just cosmetic interior areas and I wanted to limit the time the unit was in the cabinet. 7708450-DSCN6881.JPG (91 downloads)

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: gdonovan] #1437030 05/16/13 09:23 PM 05/16/13 09:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	One more 7708456-DSCN6888.JPG (96 downloads)

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: gdonovan] #1437031 05/17/13 12:34 AM 05/17/13 12:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Looking good, those should cleaned up great! ........Look what I'm facing this evening 7708745-RealFine409sBottoms.jpg (90 downloads)

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1437032 05/17/13 12:35 AM 05/17/13 12:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	At least I got a free Mud Dauber nest with them 7708748-RealFine409sTop2.jpg (80 downloads)

Re: Carter 500's, can this mess be fixed & if so worth it? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1437033 05/17/13 12:36 AM 05/17/13 12:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	And the owner "Helped" me get the throttle shafts free......By bending the blades in half with a screw driver....... 7708750-RealFine409sTopA.jpg (107 downloads)

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