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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/08/13 09:54 PM
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Speaking only for myself, big tires in front PS a must under 70 mph for aggressive driving, over, manual can work, but I would still choose PS. At 800 Hp only downside is routing, hoses, belts, with turbos, etc.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/08/13 11:47 PM
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Do you guys as a group prefer power steering or manual?
How about power steering that responds and feels like a fast ratio manual setup?
Thats my preference anyway.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: Kern Dog]
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03/09/13 09:17 AM
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/09/13 09:58 AM
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This is the only thing I can think of that would give you manual feel with power steering. http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products/c0018/s0001/FR40105If you want a nice driving car I think it will need power steering. I run 245/17 with 7degrees of caster and the factory power requires more effort. If you are planning a smaller steering wheel and sticky tires power would be a must for me.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/09/13 10:04 AM
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Flaming river box feels great for road race type driving and it is super comfortable at 120+ but I plan to do some parking lot stuff and with a manual trans it will handicap me so a Borgeson from Peter is next.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/09/13 11:47 AM
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My option is a power rack or manual rack as I'm going alterkation.
This is the stance I am looking for... Not so much the wheel choice though.
Power rack.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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03/09/13 01:03 PM
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There's a HUGE difference between a sustained 160mph build and a 200+ build. The word "stock" gets less and less accurate the faster you go.
He said the 200 mph was not to be taken as a literal comment.
The Dart is nothing but a 68 Dart body skin hung on a full tube Circle Track chassis with a Mopar motor. Basically a kit car. But not an old Mopar "kit car", those actually had Mopar like suspension.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/09/13 01:15 PM
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He said the 200 mph was not to be taken as a literal comment.
The Dart is nothing but a 68 Dart body skin hung on a full tube Circle Track chassis with a Mopar motor. Basically a kit car. But not an old Mopar "kit car", those actually had Mopar like suspension.
Obviously...
I'm interrested in this thread because like Josh, I'd like to do a full suspension build on my own (currently stock) Duster, although mine will be a bolt on only combo and hence, will it be performance limited due to the lack of chassis rigidity, etc. a welded frame connected, roll caged, etc. car can offer, not to mention tire clearance issues with stock wheel wells. That said I am aware of most current offerings and am still not sold on any one companies package as the "end all" of bolt in suspension improvement kits. Basically you have Firm Feel, Hotchkis, or the most recent entrant, Q1A. I'm going to hold onto my wallet until I learn more about all of them.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: abodyjoe]
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03/09/13 09:00 PM
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I've run this thing in the Silver State Classic at over 140 and she gets quite light on the front... This is the beginning of a no-mod-to-the-body add on air dam to scrape some of the air out from under the car.
11.33 @ 118.46 on motor
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Re: Building a curvy car
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03/09/13 09:41 PM
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That is badass ^^^^^^ I have thought of adding some kind of air extractors at the rear of the hood. What peoples thoughts? Seems you need air through the radiator but why keep it trapped in the engine compartment?
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Re: Building a curvy car
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03/09/13 09:56 PM
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My thoughts, the only real low pressure area on a hood at speed is,in your case roughly about where the radiator cap is, not an easy area to vent, additionally, there likely is no high pressure area under the hood to begin with that needs extracting. At speed radiator airflow needs are somewhat reduced anyway, so blocking off some of the grille intake is a plus. 67charger is on the right path, for bang for buck, however his rear end now is going to get lighter by what ever increase in front end downforce he achieves, It never ends. 
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: jcc]
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03/10/13 01:19 AM
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The rear will eventually be getting about a 3" kicker right at the end of the trunk lid. I have enough gap between the trunk lid and the quarters to get some uprights snaked though there.
This car will likely top out in the 150 class with a max allowable speed of 165. I have enough engine to pull higher speeds, but the cage requirements start getting really invasive for a full interior weekend cruiser. Not to mention the requisite brake system upgrades beyond what I'm already running. Anything faster will be in a dedicated car.
11.33 @ 118.46 on motor
10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray
Now, high Speed Open Road Racing - Silver State Classic Challenge, Nevada Open Road Challenge, Big Bend Open Road Race
Rocky Mountain Race Week 2020, 2022 2.0, Sick Week 2023
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