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home ported heads #1394250
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a couple of observations while porting my heads in the basement:
1)it takes a lot longer than you planned.
2)port to port consistency is very hard to achieve.
3)it looks good when you go to bed, and looks like crap the next day.
4)i almost forgot...im not as clever as i thought!

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It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
Re: home ported heads [Re: poboyengineering] #1394251
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i broke through the pushrod pinchpoint...no surprise...what sort of epoxy will hold a tube to repair the leak?


It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
Re: home ported heads [Re: poboyengineering] #1394252
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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: home ported heads [Re: poboyengineering] #1394253
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a couple of observations while porting my heads in the basement:
1)it takes a lot longer than you planned.
2)port to port consistency is very hard to achieve.
3)it looks good when you go to bed, and looks like crap the next day.
4)i almost forgot...im not as clever as i thought!


My first couple of ports reminded me of my first few beers and women; The women I took home looked great when I(we)went to bed(like your ports)but in the morning things were a bit different(like your ports again).......... You need some dividers and basic cheapo measuring tools(forgot what they`re called)from harbor freight or wherever so you can maintain port-to-port consistancy and good lighting is VERY important...........


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: home ported heads [Re: poboyengineering] #1394254
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i broke through the pushrod pinchpoint...no surprise...what sort of epoxy will hold a tube to repair the leak?




Splash Zone....the best you will find in epoxy for cylinder heads!

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Re: home ported heads [Re: SuperStock68Dart] #1394255
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if you don't have experience and a way to check what you do flow wise you will probably cause more harm than help

Re: home ported heads [Re: SuperStock68Dart] #1394256
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Every time I go to the dentist I think about porting heads.
For my 302 heads I wore earplugs and a dust mask. The Sears electric die grinder came with a long cylindrical stone so I used that. It quickly wore down to a flame shape. I spent most of the time in the bowls, opening up around the valve guide and smoothing transitions. The pushrod pinch I was leery of but I did trim it some, and I got the port faces out to nearly 360 size, paying more attention to which side of the port was more important. I think it took about 8 hours. Being outside and use of earplugs makes it better.
You are right, going over the job the next day, one sees all sorts of little problems.
Congratulations on giving it a try!
R.

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Re: home ported heads [Re: dogdays] #1394257
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I dont know if imissed it somwewhere but what kind of heads are you porting? I home ported a set of 906's mainly the bowls and cleaned them up and they seemed to work pretty good. I used the porting templates in the bowls from mopar performance.


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Re: home ported heads [Re: SuperStock68Dart] #1394258
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i broke through the pushrod pinchpoint...no surprise...what sort of epoxy will hold a tube to repair the leak?




Splash Zone....the best you will find in epoxy for cylinder heads!




Splash zone is way over kill for holding tubes in. I drill mine out to the tubing size apply a little JB weld and its ready. When you tap it in it wipes of about 90% of it any way. If it is a small block Edelbrock get some 17/32 K&S brass tube #140 from Ace Hardware. If you need more info PM me. I just did 12 holes last night.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: home ported heads [Re: poboyengineering] #1394259
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thanks for the info..btw, these are 308 sb heads (ive only got $20 in them at this point, so im not scared!) the swirl port thing sort of worries me..it looks like they take up a lot of room, and the serious heads dont have them. any advice? my hillbilly way of checking these is to cc the ports...best i can do right now. with any luck ill only slow it down .25 sec...lol


It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
Re: home ported heads [Re: pittsburghracer] #1394260
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i broke through the pushrod pinchpoint...no surprise...what sort of epoxy will hold a tube to repair the leak?




Splash Zone....the best you will find in epoxy for cylinder heads!




Splash zone is way over kill for holding tubes in. I drill mine out to the tubing size apply a little JB weld and its ready. When you tap it in it wipes of about 90% of it any way. If it is a small block Edelbrock get some 17/32 K&S brass tube #140 from Ace Hardware. If you need more info PM me. I just did 12 holes last night.




If your pressing a tube into a hole why not just use Loctite sleeve retainer? I didn't know what heads he was using, he didn't say that in his post....my heads dont have a hole to press a tube into...and didn't know his did. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

Re: home ported heads [Re: SuperStock68Dart] #1394261
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The "story" on the 308s is that the exhaust port is really good, the intake port is where you put the work. Use a single pattern camshaft when you're all done.
If you want to see a botched intake port look at chevy 350 heads casting 193, they have about half the intake bowl blocked off.
R.

Re: home ported heads [Re: dogdays] #1394262
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yeah, dogdays..im grinning over the exhaust. really straight roof.


It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
Re: home ported heads [Re: poboyengineering] #1394263
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keep up the good work . like you said 20 dollar heads have some fun and see what you can get out of them some people like the Moroso A-B epoxy.


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Re: home ported heads [Re: WHITEDART] #1394264
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just press steel stock in the pushrod hole then re-drill to the w2 offset..then grind open the port shirt side square..
dont take anything off the floor unless you know what your doing at the short turn. you will kill more flow there than make if its wrong..
Ive always added material on the short turn..
the radius is key and its easy to kill it and make the same air as an almost unported head..
good luck..
another trick is put a vacuume in the intake port from the comb chamber it will suck out all the debris as you grind..
some doans back pills or ibuprofen and youll will be in order though..


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Re: home ported heads [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #1394265
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I LOVE the taste of cast iron in the morning.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: home ported heads [Re: pittsburghracer] #1394266
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Even with a mask on and the shop vac sucking chips from the opposite port - I have black buggers for a week.

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I would love to have one of these be I would have to start charging more. http://www.grizzly.com/products/28-x-39-Downdraft-Table/H2936


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: home ported heads [Re: poboyengineering] #1394268
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Years ago I spent ALOT of time on a pair of "J" heads........The single, most important thing I learned was; I should'a had them leak checked before I bolted them down.......it was a calculated risk I lost!

Hope your results are better than mine.......

Good luck!!

Re: home ported heads [Re: JBurch] #1394269
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I could always tell when a set was done "at home" by first glance. The first hole is always the largest....most work done. As the job progressed you could tell guy was getting bored and just wanted to get them "done". Each port would become progressively less and less "worked" until the final hole looked like a quickie polish job...no need to even flow...even if the first hole WAS done properly.... which they never are as they ALWAYS only "open them up" at the accessible areas...

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