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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: Bishop]
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02/21/13 05:29 PM
02/21/13 05:29 PM
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Utah and Alaska
astjp2
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They dont fit an original K-member, do a google search, I posted pics on here or the Dodge Charger forum. Waste of money unless you are running a plate...Tim
1941 Taylorcraft
1968 Charger
1994 Wrangler
1998 Wrangler
2008 Kia Rio
2017 Jetta
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: astjp2]
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02/21/13 06:42 PM
02/21/13 06:42 PM
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Ontario, Canada
Stanton
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They dont fit an original K-member
????? I think there would be hundreds of users who would disagree. That said, you have to use the correct plate for the application. The one on the right is for the plain ol' big blocks, the one in the middle is for a hemi and will work with stock mounts and K-member
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: Stanton]
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02/21/13 06:44 PM
02/21/13 06:44 PM
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
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They dont fit an original K-member
????? I think there would be hundreds of users who would disagree. That said, you have to use the correct plate for the application. The one on the right is for the plain ol' big blocks, the one in the middle is for a hemi and will work with stock mounts and K-member
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: Stanton]
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02/21/13 07:07 PM
02/21/13 07:07 PM
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Alabama
Mopar-Al
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This is basically the same setup only not "billet". The cover is from Muscle Motors and is probably half the price of the Milodon (does the same thing just not as pretty!)
You see the bolt on the top back? You are not showing a hemi block and mount. That rear bolt I believe I have heard something talked about on here, but I also read it was resolved.
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: Mopar-Al]
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02/21/13 07:48 PM
02/21/13 07:48 PM
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fredericksburg,va
cudaman1969
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I'm trying to fit mine now( cast pump and cover)won't fit with stock mount. Pump eliminates spacer plate but whole ass. sticks back to far. I WILL make it work though.
Went back and read ad(had to blow up) new cover will fit, I have the older one, my bad
Last edited by cudaman1969; 02/21/13 07:52 PM.
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: 68 HEMI GTS]
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02/21/13 09:45 PM
02/21/13 09:45 PM
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Ontario, Canada
Stanton
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Isnt that a 440 engine mount?
No, its a small block chevy mount !!!
The post was to show the MM cover, not a hemi mount. But I can understand the confusion.
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: prochargedhemi]
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02/22/13 02:11 PM
02/22/13 02:11 PM
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St. Charles, MO.
Slingshot383
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Milodon makes one that is even tighter to the engine than that one, almost a must in an open wheel car.
1994 Undercover Chassis 125" altered
stack injected big block, soon blown and injected
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: Bishop]
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02/22/13 03:13 PM
02/22/13 03:13 PM
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A shed in England
Tig
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Anyone ever use one of these Milodon Alum oil pumps or is there a better one on the Market? This will be going on a all Alum. 572 street HEMI 10.5:1 pump gas motor wit a HP performance Alum. block #23
Thanks Brian
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/newbimioilpu.html
We've got one on the car right now, Couldn't tighten the mounting bolts to the stock iron torque specs without it binding.
I was told 15ft lbs was OK and it seems to work on the drill.
Never found out what Milodon recommended 
Haven't got round to running the motor yet either.
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: Bishop]
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02/24/13 10:59 AM
02/24/13 10:59 AM
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West Coast, USA
jbc426
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I'm using that pump with the stock cover and a 1/2" internal pick-up. It's sweet, takes less power to drive at a given rpm than a stock pump and with the stock cover, and fits just like the stock HV pump body.
The lobes on the gearator are much more pointed than the factory lobes. Be sure to port match the pump to the block etc and do the rest of the recommended internal oiling system mods.
It's a nice upgrade to your oiling system.
Last edited by jbc426; 02/24/13 11:02 AM.
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: jbc426]
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02/24/13 11:15 AM
02/24/13 11:15 AM
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Tig
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'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: astjp2]
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02/24/13 12:46 PM
02/24/13 12:46 PM
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Southwestern Ontario Canada
racealittle
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Anyone ever use one of these Milodon Alum oil pumps or is there a better one on the Market? This will be going on a all Alum. 572 street HEMI 10.5:1 pump gas motor wit a HP performance Alum. block #23
Thanks Brian
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/newbimioilpu.html
We've got one on the car right now, Couldn't tighten the mounting bolts to the stock iron torque specs without it binding.
I was told 15ft lbs was OK and it seems to work on the drill.
Never found out what Milodon recommended
Haven't got round to running the motor yet either.
What mounts are you using? Which block? Which K-member? The OP was asking about a Hemi block and K-member with the new cover and others post pics of their 440 setup or of some other cover. Tim
Years ago I cracked the housing of a cast iron version of that oil pump. It was at the narrowest wall. That motor would have been toast if I didn't constantly check and recheck things. I torqued it to stock specs and it bound up to the point I could not spin the motor. That lower torque spec sounds very familiar.
I have a hand written tag on a new cast iron one that is still on the shelf that says 25 ft lbs.
Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen!
Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: jbc426]
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02/26/13 12:47 AM
02/26/13 12:47 AM
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Lethbridge, AB, Canada
dangina
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I'm using that pump with the stock cover and a 1/2" internal pick-up. It's sweet, takes less power to drive at a given rpm than a stock pump and with the stock cover, and fits just like the stock HV pump body.
The lobes on the gearator are much more pointed than the factory lobes. Be sure to port match the pump to the block etc and do the rest of the recommended internal oiling system mods.
It's a nice upgrade to your oiling system.
I have to port match the block? thanks I did not know this and will do so before I goto install it. As for the rest of the internal oil system mods what can I do to improve? building a 470ci stroker (400 block) running the milodon oil pump and milodon road race pan with windage tray and 3/8" pickup
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Re: Milodon Alum pump & cover
[Re: dangina]
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02/26/13 09:34 PM
02/26/13 09:34 PM
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West Coast, USA
jbc426
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I'm using that pump with the stock cover and a 1/2" internal pick-up. It's sweet, takes less power to drive at a given rpm than a stock pump and with the stock cover, and fits just like the stock HV pump body.
The lobes on the gearator are much more pointed than the factory lobes. Be sure to port match the pump to the block etc and do the rest of the recommended internal oiling system mods.
It's a nice upgrade to your oiling system.
I have to port match the block? thanks I did not know this and will do so before I goto install it. As for the rest of the internal oil system mods what can I do to improve? building a 470ci stroker (400 block) running the milodon oil pump and milodon road race pan with windage tray and 3/8" pickup
There's a very wise bunch of experienced engine builders on this site that can point you in the right direction regarding preparing and improving the blocks oil passages etc.
Just be careful, take your time and follow the generally accepted practices of the guys who've been there done that.
One of the most critical things you can do is clean everything, and I mean everything several times.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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