Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
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02/08/13 11:45 PM
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thats why I like a shackle flip with axle floped ontop of the springs no wheel hop just spins or hooks. the axle under set up has always made the rear of a truck jump around,the shackle in stock position flops back and forth as it wheel hops/bounce/rebound with it flip and the weight loading the shackle and spring it does a much better job controling the wrap up in the springs. the way the leverage is applied to the spring makes all the difference. IMHO you can make a traction bar that goes under the u-bolts on top of the spring. make a plate with an anchor/pivot point and bolt it under the u-bolts on top of leaf spring. make a rod with a heim joint on one end and a threded stud on the other end. drill a hole in the front spring mount and use rubbers and washer from a front shock on the stud end and hanger. done this for a few 4x4s when running the axle under spring,makes a nice traction bar and is up out of the way. this will elimnate wheel hop on the cheap.
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Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
[Re: scratchnfotraction]
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02/09/13 12:59 AM
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you can make a traction bar that goes under the u-bolts on top of the spring.
make a plate with an anchor/pivot point and bolt it under the u-bolts on top of leaf spring.
make a rod with a heim joint on one end and a threded stud on the other end.
drill a hole in the front spring mount and use rubbers and washer from a front shock on the stud end and hanger.
done this for a few 4x4s when running the axle under spring,makes a nice traction bar and is up out of the way.
this will elimnate wheel hop on the cheap.
Photos? I'll have my junk back on the road some year and I'll likely need something like this.
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Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
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02/09/13 09:09 AM
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Stumpy, first off the truck looks great so far. The clamping of the front segments works good and I even went as far as making traction bars that welded to the bottom of the spring plates. Eliminated the wheel hop but those are band-aid fixes for worn springs and bushings. I eventually upgraded to new 3/4 ton springs and didn't need any of it. Stock LRE springs are by the numbers 3/4 ton springs with 1/2 ton hardware. Lastly, throw away those air shocks. What shocks did you run on the old truck?
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Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
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02/09/13 12:06 PM
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My dakota would wheel hop badly. especially if it was wet out and traction was even more limited.
I clamped the front section with home made bar stock. and 4 nuts/bolts.
ended all my wheel hop issues.
I can't say that it improved my traction any, because I just use hard street tires, but at least the springs quit hopping around.
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Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
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02/09/13 02:09 PM
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I clamped the front spring sections and put on a set of $20 traction bars I got at Carlisle. I also took out the air shocks and put in a pair of B body Rancho shocks I had laying around. It worked well.
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Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
[Re: stumpy]
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02/09/13 11:43 PM
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Dag, you didn't waste any time on that swap! Time to swap the springs from the old truck?
Scott B.
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Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
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02/10/13 02:17 AM
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thats why I like a shackle flip with axle floped ontop of the springs
no wheel hop just spins or hooks.
the axle under set up has always made the rear of a truck jump around, the shackle in stock position flops back and forth as it wheel hops/bounce/rebound
with it flip and the weight loading the shackle and spring it does a much better job controling the wrap up in the springs.
the way the leverage is applied to the spring makes all the difference. IMHO
you can make a traction bar that goes under the u-bolts on top of the spring.
make a plate with an anchor/pivot point and bolt it under the u-bolts on top of leaf spring.
make a rod with a heim joint on one end and a threded stud on the other end.
drill a hole in the front spring mount and use rubbers and washer from a front shock on the stud end and hanger.
done this for a few 4x4s when running the axle under spring,makes a nice traction bar and is up out of the way.
this will elimnate wheel hop on the cheap.
Mine didn't....haha you witnessed that
Rickster
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Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
[Re: stumpy]
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02/10/13 09:05 AM
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The same shocks.
Hmmm. Well you don't have to do everything at once.
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Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
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thats why I like a shackle flip with axle floped ontop of the springs
no wheel hop just spins or hooks.
the axle under set up has always made the rear of a truck jump around, the shackle in stock position flops back and forth as it wheel hops/bounce/rebound
with it flip and the weight loading the shackle and spring it does a much better job controling the wrap up in the springs.
the way the leverage is applied to the spring makes all the difference. IMHO
you can make a traction bar that goes under the u-bolts on top of the spring.
make a plate with an anchor/pivot point and bolt it under the u-bolts on top of leaf spring.
make a rod with a heim joint on one end and a threded stud on the other end.
drill a hole in the front spring mount and use rubbers and washer from a front shock on the stud end and hanger.
done this for a few 4x4s when running the axle under spring,makes a nice traction bar and is up out of the way.
this will elimnate wheel hop on the cheap.
Mine didn't....haha you witnessed that
Rickster
None of my truck have wheel hopped either
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Re: How to cure wheel hop on a short bed?
[Re: stumpy]
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02/10/13 11:56 AM
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Three weeks start to finish in my driveway. The springs from the old truck wouldn't work because they are rearched 4".
Why wouldnt they work
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