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What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? #1378369 01/29/13 10:49 PM 01/29/13 10:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,283 Danville, NH M Mopar_Mike OP master
Mopar_Mike OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,283 Danville, NH	just wondering about what cams people are using in their 505 stroker engines. Just looking for an idea. I know my application makes a big difference, but just looking to see what people use. RS23L7 4-Speed

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378370 01/29/13 11:05 PM 01/29/13 11:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC	511 CID (4.375" bore x 4.250" stroke) 13.5 CR Indy 440-1 heads Comp Cams MM305S-10 flat tappet solid lifter cam 305�/320�@.020", 279�/287�@.050", 197�/200�@.200", 110 LSA 0.690"/.670" lift with 1.6 Indy rockers (.650/.630" published at 1.5)

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378371 01/29/13 11:05 PM 01/29/13 11:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Well in my 493 I am using a solid flat tappet that I got from Dwayne Porter. He speced the cam for me and ground the cam also. I do alot of street driving so I decided not to go roller. My cam is 264 & 270 at .050 and lift is like .588 and .592 only I use 1.6 rockers for .628 and .632. It has a 110 LSA and I have it on a 106 centerline. Ron

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: 383man] #1378372 01/30/13 12:11 AM 01/30/13 12:11 AM
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dennismopar73 top fuel D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill	There just 2 cams that we have run the most use ,, is a Racer Brown STX 21,, and STX 22 Both use a 105 c/l STX-21 304 266 .560(1.5 rockers) .590(1.6 rockers) STX-22 310 276 .590 .629 We have used a 112 c/l on a stx 22, but no hp gain over the 105 c/l cam we have them in use with eddie rpm and sets of Victors Jr with a max CNC port job, We have had ets in the 9,50 zone with a 474 with out of the box RPM heads and the STX 21 3200 car. As for my car it weighs in at 2900 with a driver has a 437 (383 w a 440 crank) eddie RPMs out of the box, STX 21 With no tune up to speak have run 10.48 with a 1.42 60ft I still have a chassie to dial in,and a motor to tune on , I am sure that 10-0s is not out of the question for a low hp , low buck motor!!

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378373 01/30/13 12:37 AM 01/30/13 12:37 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA	Quote: just wondering about what cams people are using in their 505 stroker engines. Just looking for an idea. I know my application makes a big difference, but just looking to see what people use. What compreesion, what usage, which heads and inatek and carbs.,what RPM do you want and so on Awfully hard to make a decent suggestion without knowing the intended use and parts it needs to work with Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1378374 01/30/13 09:06 AM 01/30/13 09:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,283 Danville, NH M Mopar_Mike OP master
Mopar_Mike OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,283 Danville, NH	Quote: Quote: just wondering about what cams people are using in their 505 stroker engines. Just looking for an idea. I know my application makes a big difference, but just looking to see what people use. What compreesion, what usage, which heads and inatek and carbs.,what RPM do you want and so on Awfully hard to make a decent suggestion without knowing the intended use and parts it needs to work with Agreed.. Here is my engine: 440/505 Eagle kit 21022 10.725 deck height 4.35 bore 4.25 stroke 7.1 H-Beam rod -8.0 cc top piston 1.475 pin height 11.48.1 Compression Indy EZ-1 Heads and Intake, QF 950 67 Coronet 3800 with me in it. 727 ( have not picked converter yet) Strange 60 with 4.10 gears and 275/60 M/T tires. Mostly a track car. Thanks! RS23L7 4-Speed

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378375 01/30/13 11:59 AM 01/30/13 11:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,073 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,073 Benton, IL.	499", ported Eddies, 10.75cr, street car w/727 & 3.91s Scott Brown spec'd .609/.606 251/264 112* flat solid Master, again and still

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378376 01/30/13 01:56 PM 01/30/13 01:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	Friend of mine just put this in his in his 496 with CNC'd eddy's and ported victor and 1050 dominator street car and he loves it. uses 1.6 hughes rockesr for .700 lift uses Iski gold springs. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-23-707-9/overview/make/chrysler Mechanical roller tappet Basic Operating RPM Range:4,400-7,000 Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift:275 Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift:285 Duration at 050 inch Lift:275 int./285 exh. Advertised Intake Duration:308 Advertised Exhaust Duration:315 Advertised Duration:308 int./315 exh. Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.657 in. Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.659 in. Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.657 int./0.659 exh. Lobe Separation (degrees):108 Camshaft Gear Attachment:3-bolt replaced a 270/274 @ .050 110 LSA cam 4100 lb car with 4400 stall and 4.10 gears says noticeable hp improvements but no track time as yet! on my old 542 I used a scott brown 274/282 112 LSA .715/.702 lift with 1.6 worked good will use it in my 542 aluminum block when i get the internals. could use a we bit more I think. Old stock block went 10.11 @ 132.32 in a real stiff cross wind @ 3700 lb.

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378377 01/30/13 01:58 PM 01/30/13 01:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,169 Virginia Beach, VA O Old School super stock
Old School super stock O Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,169 Virginia Beach, VA	solid roller 68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp 70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME) 70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378378 01/30/13 02:19 PM 01/30/13 02:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	Hyper henry used this flat tappet in the 512 worked real good but he sold the 512 to tame down a bit while he concentrates on his daughters baseball. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-23-634-5 specs http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/cam-specs/Details.aspx?csid=737&sb=2 I found this for him a 3:00 am one night when pondering a cam for his 512 and remembering some cam suggestions I had read about by Herb McCandless think Herb was high on a .650/.650 for race 440's and I found this and the .650 think it is this one then found above and liked the numbers http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-23-630-5/overview/make/chrysler

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378379 01/30/13 03:53 PM 01/30/13 03:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Agreed.. Here is my engine: 440/505 Eagle kit 21022 10.725 deck height 4.35 bore 4.25 stroke 7.1 H-Beam rod -8.0 cc top piston 1.475 pin height 11.48.1 Compression Indy EZ-1 Heads and Intake, QF 950 67 Coronet 3800 with me in it. 727 ( have not picked converter yet) Strange 60 with 4.10 gears and 275/60 M/T tires. Mostly a track car. Thanks! If your up for buying and using a solid roller cam and lifters I have a Comp Cams custom grind solid roller that works real well It is 260 @.050 with .420 lobe lift on the intake lobes and 266@.050 with .409 exhaust lobe lift on the exhaust lobes. PM if you want the lobe numbers, they where BB Chevy lobes originally I used a set of Harland Sharp 1.65 ratio rockers originally on my Eddy RPM heads and now use a set of T&D 1.65 ratio on my Indy SR, the motor is a 518 C.I. pump gas motor that pulls like gang buster to 7800 RPM if I let it I try to shift it at or close to 7000 RPM My car will slow down a tiny bit in the 1/8 mile if I short shift it between 5800 and 6500 RPM in 1st and 2nd gear Big motors needs big air to make the most of the combination, your little tires will be the biggest challenge to make work, in my opinion You might like the same size in a bias slick or bias race street tire like the M/T ET Streets instead of the M/T ET Street Radials Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1378380 01/30/13 08:01 PM 01/30/13 08:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,283 Danville, NH M Mopar_Mike OP master
Mopar_Mike OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,283 Danville, NH	I wouldn't mind a roller cam, but I think its a little to costly for me. I guess I'd have to look into it. What do you guys think of this: http://www.jegs.com/i/Mopar-Performance/312/P4349268AD/10002/-1?parentProductId=746961 RS23L7 4-Speed

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378381 01/30/13 08:08 PM 01/30/13 08:08 PM
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Chassisman master Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,749 Chowchilla,ca	I don't remember the specs...but I ran the McCandles Special from Comp Cams .... .650 lift solid...sounded great and ran REALLY good......

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Chassisman] #1378382 01/30/13 08:17 PM 01/30/13 08:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	I run crower 650 lift solid lifter , great cam but you better have a stick or a real high stall as it doesn't smooth out till 5,000 RPM"S it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: rowin4] #1378383 01/30/13 08:32 PM 01/30/13 08:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,283 Danville, NH M Mopar_Mike OP master
Mopar_Mike OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,283 Danville, NH	Quote: I run crower 650 lift solid lifter , great cam but you better have a stick or a real high stall as it doesn't smooth out till 5,000 RPM"S These are the stock EZ-1 head, I think they are rated to .600 lift? does anyone know for sure? I'd like to run over a .600, like the one above without changing spings etc. RS23L7 4-Speed

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378384 01/30/13 08:32 PM 01/30/13 08:32 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,505 TN S SCATPACK 1 pro stock
SCATPACK 1 pro stock S Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,505 TN	That cam has 286 duration @ 50. It will kill some of your bottom end, Sound awesome and run really strong thru 7800 to 8000 grand. I think your set up would respond better with a 266 - 274 @ 50 cam. What do your SR heads flow above 600 lift? My cousin has a similar 67 car to yours except he has a 4.56 gear and runs 29.5 X 10.50 drag slicks. He just replaced a bigger cam with a Bullet Roller cam I had that has 266 @ 50 w/ 110 lobe seperation installed at 108 and it has 670 lift. His old cam was a 286 @ 50 cam. His car is quicker and faster with the smaller cam. He has an old set of Zeeker heads that flow really well in the mid range up to 700 lift. He has a 5000 stall converter (I think). Old Geezer Racing

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1378385 01/30/13 08:34 PM 01/30/13 08:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: I run crower 650 lift solid lifter , great cam but you better have a stick or a real high stall as it doesn't smooth out till 5,000 RPM"S These are the stock EZ-1 head, I think they are rated to .600 lift? does anyone know for sure? I'd like to run over a .600, like the one above without changing spings etc. If the springs are only rated to .600 lift then running something bigger isn't going to be a good idea . Stop being cheap Mike , spend it because you can't take it with you ...

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? [Re: JohnRR] #1378386 01/30/13 08:47 PM 01/30/13 08:47 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,505 TN S SCATPACK 1 pro stock
SCATPACK 1 pro stock S Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,505 TN	Sorry Mike, I thought you were running the SR heads. I would not run the springs that come with the EZ heads on anything at or over 600 lift. You are going to float the valves and break stuff. ASK me how I know. My son broke engine parts twice, before I got smart and replaced the springs. Yep I am a slow learner. LOL Old Geezer Racing

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