What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines?

Posted By: Mopar_Mike

What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 02:49 AM

just wondering about what cams people are using in their 505 stroker engines. Just looking for an idea. I know my application makes a big difference, but just looking to see what people use.

Posted By: 440Jim

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 03:05 AM

511 CID (4.375" bore x 4.250" stroke)
13.5 CR
Indy 440-1 heads
Comp Cams MM305S-10 flat tappet solid lifter cam
305�/320�@.020", 279�/287�@.050", 197�/200�@.200", 110 LSA
0.690"/.670" lift with 1.6 Indy rockers (.650/.630" published at 1.5)

Posted By: 383man

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 03:05 AM

Well in my 493 I am using a solid flat tappet that I got from Dwayne Porter. He speced the cam for me and ground the cam also. I do alot of street driving so I decided not to go roller. My cam is 264 & 270 at .050 and lift is like .588 and .592 only I use 1.6 rockers for .628 and .632. It has a 110 LSA and I have it on a 106 centerline. Ron

Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 04:11 AM

There just 2 cams that we have run the most use ,, is a Racer Brown STX 21,, and STX 22 Both use a 105 c/l
STX-21 304 266 .560(1.5 rockers) .590(1.6 rockers)
STX-22 310 276 .590 .629
We have used a 112 c/l on a stx 22, but no hp gain over the 105 c/l cam
we have them in use with eddie rpm and sets of Victors Jr with a max CNC port job,
We have had ets in the 9,50 zone with a 474 with out of the box RPM heads and the STX 21 3200 car.
As for my car it weighs in at 2900 with a driver has a 437 (383 w a 440 crank) eddie RPMs out of the box, STX 21 With no tune up to speak have run 10.48 with a 1.42 60ft
I still have a chassie to dial in,and a motor to tune on , I am sure that 10-0s is not out of the question for a low hp , low buck motor!!

Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 04:37 AM

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just wondering about what cams people are using in their 505 stroker engines. Just looking for an idea. I know my application makes a big difference, but just looking to see what people use.

What compreesion, what usage, which heads and inatek and carbs.,what RPM do you want and so on

Awfully hard to make a decent suggestion without knowing the intended use and parts it needs to work with

Posted By: Mopar_Mike

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 01:06 PM

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just wondering about what cams people are using in their 505 stroker engines. Just looking for an idea. I know my application makes a big difference, but just looking to see what people use.

What compreesion, what usage, which heads and inatek and carbs.,what RPM do you want and so on Awfully hard to make a decent suggestion without knowing the intended use and parts it needs to work with

Agreed.. Here is my engine:

440/505 Eagle kit 21022
10.725 deck height
4.35 bore
4.25 stroke
7.1 H-Beam rod
-8.0 cc top piston
1.475 pin height
11.48.1 Compression

Indy EZ-1 Heads and Intake, QF 950

67 Coronet 3800 with me in it. 727 ( have not picked converter yet) Strange 60 with 4.10 gears and 275/60 M/T tires.

Mostly a track car.

Thanks!

Posted By: DaveRS23

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 03:59 PM

499", ported Eddies, 10.75cr, street car w/727 & 3.91s

Scott Brown spec'd .609/.606 251*/264* 112* flat solid

Posted By: Dodgem

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 05:56 PM

Friend of mine just put this in his in his 496 with CNC'd eddy's and ported victor and 1050 dominator street car and he loves it. uses 1.6 hughes rockesr for .700 lift uses Iski gold springs.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-23-707-9/overview/make/chrysler
Mechanical roller tappet
Basic Operating RPM Range:4,400-7,000
Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift:275
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift:285
Duration at 050 inch Lift:275 int./285 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration:308
Advertised Exhaust Duration:315
Advertised Duration:308 int./315 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.657 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.659 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.657 int./0.659 exh.
Lobe Separation (degrees):108
Camshaft Gear Attachment:3-bolt

replaced a 270/274 @ .050 110 LSA cam
4100 lb car with 4400 stall and 4.10 gears says noticeable hp improvements but no track time as yet!

on my old 542 I used a scott brown 274/282 112 LSA .715/.702 lift with 1.6 worked good will use it in my 542 aluminum block when i get the internals. could use a we bit more I think. Old stock block went 10.11 @ 132.32 in a real stiff cross wind @ 3700 lb.

Posted By: Old School

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 05:58 PM

solid roller

Posted By: Dodgem

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 06:19 PM

Hyper henry used this flat tappet in the 512 worked real good but he sold the 512 to tame down a bit while he concentrates on his daughters baseball.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-23-634-5

specs
http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/cam-specs/Details.aspx?csid=737&sb=2

I found this for him a 3:00 am one night when pondering a cam for his 512 and remembering some cam suggestions I had read about by Herb McCandless think Herb was high on a .650/.650 for race 440's and I found this and the .650
think it is this one then found above and liked the numbers
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-23-630-5/overview/make/chrysler

Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/30/13 07:53 PM

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Agreed.. Here is my engine:

440/505 Eagle kit 21022
10.725 deck height
4.35 bore
4.25 stroke
7.1 H-Beam rod
-8.0 cc top piston
1.475 pin height
11.48.1 Compression

Indy EZ-1 Heads and Intake, QF 950

67 Coronet 3800 with me in it. 727 ( have not picked converter yet) Strange 60 with 4.10 gears and 275/60 M/T tires.

Mostly a track car.

Thanks!

If your up for buying and using a solid roller cam and lifters I have a Comp Cams custom grind solid roller that works real well

It is 260 @.050 with .420 lobe lift on the intake lobes and 266@.050 with .409 exhaust lobe lift on the exhaust lobes. PM if you want the lobe numbers, they where BB Chevy lobes originally

I used a set of Harland Sharp 1.65 ratio rockers originally on my Eddy RPM heads and now use a set of T&D 1.65 ratio on my Indy SR, the motor is a 518 C.I. pump gas motor that pulls like gang buster to 7800 RPM if I let it

I try to shift it at or close to 7000 RPM

My car will slow down a tiny bit in the 1/8 mile if I short shift it between 5800 and 6500 RPM in 1st and 2nd gear

Big motors needs big air to make the most of the combination, your little tires will be the biggest challenge to make work, in my opinion

You might like the same size in a bias slick or bias race street tire like the M/T ET Streets instead of the M/T ET Street Radials

Posted By: Mopar_Mike

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/31/13 12:01 AM

I wouldn't mind a roller cam, but I think its a little to costly for me. I guess I'd have to look into it.

What do you guys think of this:

http://www.jegs.com/i/Mopar-Performance/312/P4349268AD/10002/-1?parentProductId=746961

Posted By: Chassisman

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/31/13 12:08 AM

I don't remember the specs...but I ran the McCandles Special from Comp Cams .... .650 lift solid...sounded great and ran REALLY good......

Posted By: rowin4

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/31/13 12:17 AM

I run crower 650 lift solid lifter , great cam but you better have a stick or a real high stall as it doesn't smooth out till 5,000 RPM"S

Posted By: Mopar_Mike

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/31/13 12:32 AM

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I run crower 650 lift solid lifter , great cam but you better have a stick or a real high stall as it doesn't smooth out till 5,000 RPM"S

These are the stock EZ-1 head, I think they are rated to .600 lift? does anyone know for sure?
I'd like to run over a .600, like the one above without changing spings etc.

Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/31/13 12:32 AM

That cam has 286 duration @ 50. It will kill some of your bottom end, Sound awesome and run really strong thru 7800 to 8000 grand. I think your set up would respond better with a 266 - 274 @ 50 cam. What do your SR heads flow above 600 lift?
My cousin has a similar 67 car to yours except he has a 4.56 gear and runs 29.5 X 10.50 drag slicks. He just replaced a bigger cam with a Bullet Roller cam I had that has 266 @ 50 w/ 110 lobe seperation installed at 108 and it has 670 lift. His old cam was a 286 @ 50 cam. His car is quicker and faster with the smaller cam. He has an old set of Zeeker heads that flow really well in the mid range up to 700 lift. He has a 5000 stall converter (I think).

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/31/13 12:34 AM

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I run crower 650 lift solid lifter , great cam but you better have a stick or a real high stall as it doesn't smooth out till 5,000 RPM"S

These are the stock EZ-1 head, I think they are rated to .600 lift? does anyone know for sure?
I'd like to run over a .600, like the one above without changing spings etc.

If the springs are only rated to .600 lift then running something bigger isn't going to be a good idea .

Stop being cheap Mike , spend it because you can't take it with you ...

Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: What cams are you using in your 440/505 engines? - 01/31/13 12:47 AM

Sorry Mike, I thought you were running the SR heads. I would not run the springs that come with the EZ heads on anything at or over 600 lift. You are going to float the valves and break stuff. ASK me how I know. My son broke engine parts twice, before I got smart and replaced the springs. Yep I am a slow learner. LOL