Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp
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01/27/13 11:57 AM
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My On the street you won't have any problems. At the strip, that's another story. If you plan on "dead hooking" the tires, the trans may last a few passes, but will eventually break, if something else doesn't break first. What clutch are you planning on using? What rear are you planning on using? That kind of torq and HP will need a good clutch assembly and at least a Dana out back.
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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp
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01/27/13 12:16 PM
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I think that you would be pushing it to the limit with an 18 spline box. The 23 spline setup has a finer tooth setup on the gears. I don't think it is going to have a long lifespan in back of your powerplant.
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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp
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01/27/13 01:55 PM
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This is what will happen, first to second gear will go smoothly, shifting into third under power will be something that will make you cringe. As the input shaft and output shaft come together at the third gear it is a week point in the transmission. The pressure will push the gears apart and destroy the main third gear and cluster gear if not more. Ask me how I know that with a lot less horse power. Liberty Gears told me that would happen, took me 3 times to figure out. Spend a little more on a good transmission now and you will be $$$ ahead.
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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp
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01/27/13 02:06 PM
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another option is a Tremec 5 speed (the rpm's at 80 with 4.10 gears is 2500, the 6 speed is overkill)
there is a thread here https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=5899467
it requires major chassis mods including modifying your torsion bar cross member as well... not for the lighthearted
That still won't be enough in my opinion...with the power he plans on making, a tremec of any kind will be on borrowed time... Massive amounts of power will require race type gearboxes and a GOOD clutch
Sure its only a street car that will see the strip "sometimes", but all it takes one pass to have an expensive mess of parts at the power levels he is at
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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp
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01/27/13 06:30 PM
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Hey Kevin, I was told torque do destroyer parts, that is what I'm scare of. Now here the kicker so don't laugh, I was going to use the od 4sd on the street and the regular 4sd which I was going to let Liberty face plate and use a v-gate shifter at the track.
833OD? (sorry had to laugh)
I know a guy that runs an 833OD in his Hemi RR with no troubles BUT he doesn't beat on it and by that I mean no drag strip launches or power shifts and OD is for cruise ONLY. He runs it up to whatever in 3rd and holds it there in OD. If he needs to accelerate from like 60 to 80 it's back to 3rd to do it. He has driven it from Canada to Florida several times.
Your right foot will ultimately determine how long less than ideal parts will last.
Kevin
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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp
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01/28/13 02:30 AM
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My rear sat up. Dana with 3.55, 295 55 15 drag radials MT. With cal-tracks.
... i have to laugh , you spent some serious coin on building that engine and think a$250 trans is going to live behind it ??
... sorry ....
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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp
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01/28/13 01:57 PM
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Hey Kevin, I was told torque do destroyer parts, that is what I'm scare of. Now here the kicker so don't laugh, I was going to use the od 4sd on the street and the regular 4sd which I was going to let Liberty face plate and use a v-gate shifter at the track.
Show us some pics after the 833 OD splits the case in half...seriously - w/o bushing those cases for the countershaft (if its aluminum) you ain't got a chance of that thing living, 318's and slant sixes can kill an OD 833...
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