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Weight loss - hood or heads? #1375534 01/25/13 04:48 PM 01/25/13 04:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,516 Santa Cruz, California L Lefty OP master
Lefty OP master L Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,516 Santa Cruz, California	66 Coronet with a 440 and 516 ported factory heads - Any ideas on a front end weight loss program that drops the most weight? Comparing stock steel to lift off fiberglass hood or stock steel to aluminum heads. Which change would lighten the front end the most? I'm going to do both, but can afford only one at a time.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Lefty] #1375535 01/25/13 05:16 PM 01/25/13 05:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	Cheapest: Hood. Expensively, but done the right way: Heads. Both about the same weight in removal with the heads maybe nudging heavier on the scale by a little. Usually both steel heads will be at about 110 pounds. where as a steel hood will be at about 70 or so. Last edited by fullmetaljacket; 01/25/13 05:43 PM.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Lefty] #1375536 01/25/13 05:21 PM 01/25/13 05:21 PM
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2FASTCORONET member 2 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 178 Sterling Hts, MI	Fiberglass hood, bumper, aluminum heads, water pump housing and pump, aluminum radiator, plastic/metal master cylinder, lose the wiper motor

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: 2FASTCORONET] #1375537 01/25/13 06:09 PM 01/25/13 06:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,169 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,169 PA.	Fiberglass hood = weight loss. aluminum heads = weight loss + horsepower I know what I would do. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1375538 01/25/13 06:20 PM 01/25/13 06:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Fiberglass hood = weight loss. aluminum heads = weight loss + horsepower I know what I would do. My opinion also... thats a 2 for 1

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1375539 01/25/13 07:27 PM 01/25/13 07:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,757 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,757 A collage of whims	Take into account painting for the hood, and any upgrades/corrections needed on the heads. Hood's gonna be cheaper, heads are most likely a two-fer depending on your combo & porting.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Lefty] #1375540 01/25/13 07:51 PM 01/25/13 07:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL Chris2581 master
Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	Stealth heads,water pump/housing,radiator- all aluminum = 60 lbs off the front of my car. Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1375541 01/25/13 08:03 PM 01/25/13 08:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	True this. If you have the budget and pretty sound motor, I would go with the heads as well. Factor in the rockers, etc. and it could be a little pricey as compared to a Hood though. Some good rattle can satin black will paint it for the moment.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Chris2581] #1375542 01/25/13 08:03 PM 01/25/13 08:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	Been there, done that. I chose heads and am happy I did! -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Lefty] #1375543 01/25/13 09:23 PM 01/25/13 09:23 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 461 Hinterland SE Qld Aust S SG duster mopar
SG duster mopar S Joined: May 2009 Posts: 461 Hinterland SE Qld Aust	steel duster hood 50lbs fiberglass duster hood 12lbs alloy heads are another 50lb, an alloy radiator saved me a bunch over a factory one and also I saved a further 50lb by upgrading to areospace front brake set.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Lefty] #1375544 01/25/13 09:30 PM 01/25/13 09:30 PM
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Winchester 73 member W Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 168 Washington State, USA	dont forget you can always race without the hood on!its free!

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Winchester 73] #1375545 01/26/13 05:01 AM 01/26/13 05:01 AM
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sshemi top fuel S Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,128 sweden	If the hood had a scoop you would also get cooler air to the motor.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: sshemi] #1375546 06/22/13 02:17 AM 06/22/13 02:17 AM
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Lefty OP master L Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,516 Santa Cruz, California	Ok, been working way too hard to pay for a serious weight loss. You guys were about 50/50 on hood or heads so I bought a set of heads and am ordering a AAR lift off hood tomorrow. Next on the list is venting some of the under hood air build up with bolt on louvers and an air dam to keep too much air from getting under the car. Anyone know if louvers on the hood will "suck" hot air from the engine compartment due to air flow over the louvers?

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Lefty] #1375547 06/22/13 04:14 AM 06/22/13 04:14 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOrk ! The village idiot's idiot
dOrk ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	Quote: and am ordering a AAR lift off hood tomorrow. ....just a FYI ....if you are ordering an AAR brand hood for a weight-reduction ...in many cases ..... forgetaboutit !! At least in most cases ....uNless you can get their promised net weight of the part IN WRITING when you order the part. Many MANY times it has been reported that their fiberglass hoods are VERY CLOSE to what a steel part weighs. And on bolt-on hoods sometimes way-OVER what a steel hood weighs. So BE aware ....

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: dOrk !] #1375548 06/22/13 09:18 AM 06/22/13 09:18 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 671 Wisconsin USA B Bill MeLater mopar
Bill MeLater mopar B Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 671 Wisconsin USA	Fiber glass heads.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Bill MeLater] #1375549 06/22/13 01:29 PM 06/22/13 01:29 PM
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Grizzly Moparts Proctologist Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,002 Salem	Carbon Fiber glass heads. Mo' Farts Moderated by "tbagger".

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Lefty] #1375550 06/22/13 01:47 PM 06/22/13 01:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Hood, I have my stock hood hanging on the wall. The new race weight glass hood is probably 50lbs lighter. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1375551 06/22/13 01:50 PM 06/22/13 01:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	also depending on what head you pick you might be dropping a full point of compression 516's have about 76cc champer or less.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: dOrk !] #1375552 06/22/13 09:19 PM 06/22/13 09:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Quote: Quote: and am ordering a AAR lift off hood tomorrow. ....just a FYI ....if you are ordering an AAR brand hood for a weight-reduction ...in many cases ..... forgetaboutit !! At least in most cases ....uNless you can get their promised net weight of the part IN WRITING when you order the part. Many MANY times it has been reported that their fiberglass hoods are VERY CLOSE to what a steel part weighs. And on bolt-on hoods sometimes way-OVER what a steel hood weighs. So BE aware .... Do you have an example? The bolt on AAR 6 pack hood on my Dart is about 31.3lbs lighter than the stock flat hood.

Re: Weight loss - hood or heads? [Re: dOrk !] #1375553 06/23/13 12:50 AM 06/23/13 12:50 AM
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1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: and am ordering a AAR lift off hood tomorrow. ....just a FYI ....if you are ordering an AAR brand hood for a weight-reduction ...in many cases ..... forgetaboutit !! At least in most cases ....uNless you can get their promised net weight of the part IN WRITING when you order the part. Many MANY times it has been reported that their fiberglass hoods are VERY CLOSE to what a steel part weighs. And on bolt-on hoods sometimes way-OVER what a steel hood weighs. So BE aware .... Is this new since they have been taken over? My Dakota hood was a bolt on and was a lot lighter then stock. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

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