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EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT #1372929 01/20/13 09:08 PM 01/20/13 09:08 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Looking for advise, building high speed road race early a, r3, w9's, large cubic inches Need EFI advise, 1100/1200 hps twin turbo, what the best EFI management system, looking to have 3 or 4 different tunes loaded depending on need, traction control, also looking to possibly add chassis sensors Considering the new fast system, really like the Ems systems Pros and cons Luke

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: Luke] #1372930 01/20/13 09:35 PM 01/20/13 09:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	You NEED to speak with Rich http://www.fastmanefi.com/ HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: hemi-itis] #1372931 01/21/13 12:39 AM 01/21/13 12:39 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge	I have FAST on two diffrent cars. I like it.

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: Luke] #1372932 01/21/13 04:16 AM 01/21/13 04:16 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA	On your deal I would look at either Motech or Big Stuff 3 What type of intercooling are you going to use, air to air or air to water Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: Cab_Burge] #1372933 01/21/13 04:39 AM 01/21/13 04:39 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 769 Europa, Estonia Georg super stock
Georg super stock Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 769 Europa, Estonia	Quote: On your deal I would look at either Motech or Big Stuff 3 What type of intercooling are you going to use, air to air or air to water Why to use BigStuff3 when there is FAST XFi? Motec is very expencive but one of the best Outlaw Plymouth Valiant R5/P7 Powered by Liuzzo Racing COMP Performance Group dealer in Baltic Premium Performance

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: Georg] #1372934 01/21/13 11:59 AM 01/21/13 11:59 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky S sdaurity pro stock
sdaurity pro stock S Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky	Fast, all the way. Use fast on mine and all my customers. I'm in NC also if you need any help pm me. One day I will have something cool here.

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: sdaurity] #1372935 01/21/13 12:23 PM 01/21/13 12:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 452 nc cold85 mopar
cold85 mopar Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 452 nc	Quote: Fast, all the way. Use fast on mine and all my customers. I'm in NC also if you need any help pm me. We have switched to bigstuff due to fast crashing and them trying to charge a arm and leg to fix have yall not had any of those problems?

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: cold85] #1372936 01/21/13 01:26 PM 01/21/13 01:26 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky S sdaurity pro stock
sdaurity pro stock S Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky	Quote: Quote: Fast, all the way. Use fast on mine and all my customers. I'm in NC also if you need any help pm me. We have switched to bigstuff due to fast crashing and them trying to charge a arm and leg to fix have yall not had any of those problems? Never had a problem once. The only thing I have ever had a problem with was the external logger on the old classics but haven't used one of them in years. The few guys I know with them just ride with the laptop to log now. Paul gets me prob 4-5 units a year for customer installs and I take to him to use dyno and help get tuned in. Doing one now on Brad Marsh's ultra/true street car to get ready for Georgia. One day I will have something cool here.

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: sdaurity] #1372937 01/21/13 01:37 PM 01/21/13 01:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct. T turbobitt super stock
turbobitt super stock T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct.	I have a FAST XFI system with traction caontrol and Internal data logging options. I also have the FAST DASH for expanded data logging capabilities and the optional 3 axis accelerometer, 8 channel EGT module, and GPS sensor. I found the GPS sensor logging rate to be to slow for drag racing but would probably be really handy for road racing since it will plot lap times and actual road speed at any point on the road coarse and plot the actual path traveled. Both the FAST XFI and DASH have 8 aux. analog inputs and 2 speed sensor chanels to log with. You can even use the XFI to control boost. The XFI internal data logger memmory is limited and would recomend the DASH logger for long duration data logging. Also, FAST has a thumbwheel switch that would allow changing the tune very easy without the laptop. I would recomend downloading the software from FAST and navigate your way through and see if you like it. I don't have any experience with the others but I'm sure they all have there software as a free download for you to try. Allan G. 1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy. 1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno. 1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: Luke] #1372938 01/21/13 01:55 PM 01/21/13 01:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,938 Sonora CA Mopar_Rich top fuel
Mopar_Rich top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,938 Sonora CA	Quote: Looking for advise, building high speed road race early a, r3, w9's, large cubic inches Need EFI advise, 1100/1200 hps twin turbo, what the best EFI management system, looking to have 3 or 4 different tunes loaded depending on need, traction control, also looking to possibly add chassis sensors Considering the new fast system, really like the Ems systems Pros and cons Luke I'm here. Call me at 209-247-6497 I can discuss pros and cons of the systems mentioned.

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: Georg] #1372939 01/21/13 04:16 PM 01/21/13 04:16 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Quote: Quote: On your deal I would look at either Motech or Big Stuff 3 What type of intercooling are you going to use, air to air or air to water Why to use BigStuff3 when there is FAST XFi? Motec is very expencive but one of the best air to liguid thanks Luke

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: Luke] #1372940 01/21/13 06:40 PM 01/21/13 06:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI P prochargedhemi super stock
prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	holley hp or holley dominator

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: prochargedhemi] #1372941 01/21/13 06:57 PM 01/21/13 06:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Motec is what you need BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: bigtimeauto] #1372942 01/22/13 09:23 AM 01/22/13 09:23 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 Lunch is on me!
joshking440 Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Quote: Motec is what you need An engine is what you need.....LOL

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: joshking440] #1372943 01/22/13 03:35 PM 01/22/13 03:35 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 911 London, England mopar_mark super stock
mopar_mark super stock Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 911 London, England	Fast, Motec, BigStuff3 will probably all meet your needs .... It really comes down to support or your level of expertise. Iif your not comfortable in using the system, then you need a system that your tuner is comfortable with or one that will provide the exact support, as & when you need it.

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: joshking440] #1372944 01/22/13 06:39 PM 01/22/13 06:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Quote: Quote: Motec is what you need An engine is what you need.....LOL not sure if i understand the comment, r3 block, w9 heads, mopar intake, wilson elbow and tbi, scat crank and rods, JE pistons, kevco custom pan, thought i was well on my way engine wise... 6 speed tremec, moser rear db axle, alterktion front and lynx rear suspension,Wildwood brakes, 22 point cage, full tubs, etc pretty well on my way with the car as well...lol Luke

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: mopar_mark] #1372945 01/22/13 06:44 PM 01/22/13 06:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	Or MegaSquirt. Scott Clark aka 'DieselGeek' knows his way well around these setups in Dragracing, EngineMasters and LandSpeedRacing. BigBlockMopar.com

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: Luke] #1372946 01/22/13 06:56 PM 01/22/13 06:56 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Motec is what you need An engine is what you need.....LOL not sure if i understand the comment, r3 block, w9 heads, mopar intake, wilson elbow and tbi, scat crank and rods, JE pistons, kevco custom pan, thought i was well on my way engine wise... 6 speed tremec, moser rear db axle, alterktion front and lynx rear suspension,Wildwood brakes, 22 point cage, full tubs, etc pretty well on my way with the car as well...lol Luke I'm pretty sure he meant me. my Motec is sitting here because my good engine is apart. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1372947 01/22/13 07:52 PM 01/22/13 07:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	I have to admit to being a total novice at EFI tuning... but I am pretty impressed with MegaSquirt's (TunerStudio) ability to "learn" and correct my AFRs to my selected target numbers - just by driving it and clicking OK once in a while. You still need to set everything else, but for a novice it's a pretty sweet system.

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: bigtimeauto] #1372948 01/22/13 08:02 PM 01/22/13 08:02 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Motec is what you need An engine is what you need.....LOL not sure if i understand the comment, r3 block, w9 heads, mopar intake, wilson elbow and tbi, scat crank and rods, JE pistons, kevco custom pan, thought i was well on my way engine wise... 6 speed tremec, moser rear db axle, alterktion front and lynx rear suspension,Wildwood brakes, 22 point cage, full tubs, etc pretty well on my way with the car as well...lol Luke I'm pretty sure he meant me. my Motec is sitting here because my good engine is apart. ok, im new here, as if you couldnt tell...lol Luke

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: Luke] #1372949 01/22/13 08:09 PM 01/22/13 08:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 70 Finland mopar396 member
mopar396 member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 70 Finland	Im puttin togheter Holley dominator efi on my w8 r3 procharged engine http://www.holley.com/Index.asp?division=Holleyefi MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: EFI FUEL MANAGEMENT [Re: mopar396] #1372950 01/22/13 08:12 PM 01/22/13 08:12 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	That looks like a pretty sweet setup.... Last edited by Duner; 01/22/13 08:13 PM.

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