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Big Block Rods #1370446 01/15/13 09:37 PM 01/15/13 09:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 150 Des Moines, IA CoreyWilson OP member
CoreyWilson OP member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 150 Des Moines, IA	Looking for a rod for my RB build spinning up to 7500rpm. We were going to use Manley's H beam rod, but it now looks like they've been discontinued. I've been hearing back and fourth about K1's quality so I don't know what to think about them at the moment. Searching around I came across a forged I beam from Howards Cams rated up to 1000hp part number BR6760. The rod looks good, atleast on paper, but I'm waiting to hear back from Howards about the rod width. So, has anyone used this rod or had any experience with them? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hrs-br6760-990 thanks for the help!

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: CoreyWilson] #1370447 01/15/13 09:52 PM 01/15/13 09:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	Is this for truck puller? RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1370448 01/15/13 10:04 PM 01/15/13 10:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 150 Des Moines, IA CoreyWilson OP member
CoreyWilson OP member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 150 Des Moines, IA	Directions have changed a bit and the motor will be going in a bracket car.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: CoreyWilson] #1370449 01/15/13 10:29 PM 01/15/13 10:29 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 977 Colorado 5 506RR super stock
506RR super stock 5 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 977 Colorado	These are the rods we are using. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/esp-6760b3d2000 Rated to 7500 rpm and 1200 HP.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: 506RR] #1370450 01/15/13 11:02 PM 01/15/13 11:02 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 150 Des Moines, IA CoreyWilson OP member
CoreyWilson OP member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 150 Des Moines, IA	506RR, looking back over a few of your posts I see your spraying your motor, which with my understanding of NOS would probably add to the stress on the rod, right? How many passes have you put on the new rods? Have you torn down since installing them? Do you know how they checked out ootb? So far the only downside I see to the rods is the 1.07" big end width, but I'm waiting to hear back from Howards to see what they measure as well. thanks for the info!

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: CoreyWilson] #1370451 01/16/13 12:30 AM 01/16/13 12:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey J jamesc master
jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	of the two rods mentioned here i'd use the howards before the eagles. though i don't really like aluminum rods they've come a LONG way and afaik some of the newer offerings are pretty good pieces however they're no longer inexpensive like they used to be.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: CoreyWilson] #1370452 01/16/13 12:32 AM 01/16/13 12:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,041 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,041 Oregon	Do you have to use a Chrysler rod? Chevy rods are less money for higher quality parts. It would pay to grind the crank so you can run a Chevy rod.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: CoreyWilson] #1370453 01/16/13 12:59 AM 01/16/13 12:59 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 977 Colorado 5 506RR super stock
506RR super stock 5 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 977 Colorado	Quote: 506RR, looking back over a few of your posts I see your spraying your motor, which with my understanding of NOS would probably add to the stress on the rod, right? How many passes have you put on the new rods? Have you torn down since installing them? Do you know how they checked out ootb? So far the only downside I see to the rods is the 1.07" big end width, but I'm waiting to hear back from Howards to see what they measure as well. thanks for the info! No passes on these new ARP 2000 rods yet. We have been using the Eagle rods below these with the 8740 rod bolts for the last few seasons. No problems. Measured great after this last season. Upgraded to the new rods for peace of mind because we are turning up the power in 2013. New rods are currently at machine shop. They should be getting measured this week. Lots of guys running Eagle rods with quite a bit more horsepower than I make, with a lot more nitrous than I am spraying.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: CoreyWilson] #1370454 01/16/13 01:20 AM 01/16/13 01:20 AM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,379 MD Kevins493 top fuel
Kevins493 top fuel Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,379 MD	Spinning an RB that high I'd be looking at Crower or Oliver I beams... I run Manley in mine but it only sees 7000.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: AndyF] #1370455 01/16/13 01:49 AM 01/16/13 01:49 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,384 Madison Wi NTOLERANCE master
NTOLERANCE master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,384 Madison Wi	Quote: Do you have to use a Chrysler rod? Chevy rods are less money for higher quality parts. It would pay to grind the crank so you can run a Chevy rod. Are you talking about machining a crank to accept the chevy big end diameter and width? Or using a chev rod with a mopar big end width? I used to care but....... things have changed

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: Kevins493] #1370456 01/16/13 01:51 AM 01/16/13 01:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 903 Saskatchewan, Canada cudabin super stock
cudabin super stock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 903 Saskatchewan, Canada	I recommend Oliver pro billet rods... We spin the 557" to 8,100 rpm at the traps! Cheers, Arnie 67 Cuda 8.48@ 158.7 mph 1.18 60' 2,600 DA(so far...) 70 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 4-speed. 13.2 @ 104 Stock exhaust/Street tires.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: NTOLERANCE] #1370457 01/16/13 07:22 AM 01/16/13 07:22 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 976 ontario canada mac56 super stock
mac56 super stock Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 976 ontario canada	Quote: Quote: Do you have to use a Chrysler rod? Chevy rods are less money for higher quality parts. It would pay to grind the crank so you can run a Chevy rod. Are you talking about machining a crank to accept the chevy big end diameter and width? Or using a chev rod with a mopar big end width? Andy will be talking about all chev dimension rods and run with the extra side clearance on the big end. That will be how you get a good rod at a good price.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: mac56] #1370458 01/16/13 10:06 AM 01/16/13 10:06 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,384 Madison Wi NTOLERANCE master
NTOLERANCE master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,384 Madison Wi	Quote: Quote: Quote: Do you have to use a Chrysler rod? Chevy rods are less money for higher quality parts. It would pay to grind the crank so you can run a Chevy rod. Are you talking about machining a crank to accept the chevy big end diameter and width? Or using a chev rod with a mopar big end width? Andy will be talking about all chev dimension rods and run with the extra side clearance on the big end. That will be how you get a good rod at a good price. Thats what i thought. Didnt see a way to fix the side clearance. But.....its Andy....never know.... Opens up alot of rod length options. I used to care but....... things have changed

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: NTOLERANCE] #1370459 01/16/13 10:11 AM 01/16/13 10:11 AM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 462 Stockholm, Sweden fed mopar
fed mopar Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 462 Stockholm, Sweden	BME alu rods sees close to 8000 at the strip. So far so good Cuda, -70 Valiant-65 AWB, Valiant Signet200 -65 Topchopped dragcar. Topolino Fuel Altered. NostalgiaFED Sold, SuperComp Bantam Altered, Sold Ex Harlan Thompsons Nitro funny car American Graffiti Sold,

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: fed] #1370460 01/16/13 12:21 PM 01/16/13 12:21 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 150 Des Moines, IA CoreyWilson OP member
CoreyWilson OP member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 150 Des Moines, IA	At the moment we're still wanting to keep the side clearance in check so I'd like to stick with a Chrysler sized rod. As for aluminum, this is my first race motor so I'm just not sure that's a good direction to go.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: CoreyWilson] #1370461 01/16/13 12:22 PM 01/16/13 12:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,933 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,933 United Socialist States of Ame...	Call Jimmy.. Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: tboomer] #1370462 01/16/13 12:29 PM 01/16/13 12:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx Jacob Pitt master
Jacob Pitt master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx	I have been running the Ohio Crankshaft I-beam rod in my 499" since 2008. I am happy with them and they were good out of the box. I did have them checked. http://ohiocrank.com/ibeam_rods.html 2013 NHRA D4 Stock Champ #4 in the World IHRA Stock 2x IHRA Div.4 Stock Champ 14x Track Champ All using a Ultimate Converter Concepts converter. Call Lenny today 704-892-6837

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: Jacob Pitt] #1370463 01/16/13 01:37 PM 01/16/13 01:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Really no reason to worry about rod side clearances, the oil is metered out through the annular space between bearing and journal. The side clearances on a stock Chrysler setup are much larger and being downstream, contribute zero to oil control. If I had all the money in the world I'd go with Crower or Oliver. It'd probably be a custom rod to match your desires. Crower can make any rod you want, just tell them what and throw money at them. R.

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: dogdays] #1370464 01/17/13 02:14 AM 01/17/13 02:14 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA Bigbeep super stock
Bigbeep super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA	I am running a set of 440 source h beam rods with arp2000 bolts in my .055" over 440. 7200 shift and stripe. They have been 7600 before when first changing to alcohol. 749 grams which at the time was over a 120ish grams lighter then the manleys and eagles weren't much different than that. Had them checked when new. They were a little on the tight side. Been in one engine that I had too much timing in and cracked the block due to detonation and all but one was fine after that. Resized and back in new block. Been running since 2009 with limited scheduled/finances with a couple hundred passes. Been very happy so far with budget in mind for the racing I get to do. Let the 440 source haters have at it. Beep

Re: Big Block Rods [Re: Bigbeep] #1370465 01/17/13 04:14 PM 01/17/13 04:14 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,169 Virginia Beach, VA O Old School super stock
Old School super stock O Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,169 Virginia Beach, VA	it's getting old bashing 440 source junk.......... 68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp 70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME) 70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!

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