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Build sheet preservation. #1365988
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I got a fairly nice (for its age) build sheet for my new '69 Bee. What is the best way to preserve it so it doesn't deteriorate farther? I have it folded up in a dictionary right now. Kidding, only kidding!
I thought of putting it in a picture frame with the original, and kinda ratty(still legible) fender tag. But then again, I'm a little wary of making a repop tag when I have the original, just for a display purpose.
Anyway, I hijacked my own thread. Any suggestions?


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1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: OhioMopar] #1365989
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2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: OhioMopar] #1365990
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1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: OhioMopar] #1365991
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The best think to do with a BS is to put it in an acid proof cover and store it in a dark, humidity controlled space somewhere where it won't get lost.

If you put it in a display frame, it will deteriorate due to UV but if you decide to do that you can buy UV rated glass for the frame to help. Depends whether it's in a frame to display a few times a year or if it's on your wall somewhere.

...the tag is a tough one, but I'd paint it and use it as-is I think.


Dave


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Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: DPelletier] #1365992
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https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7505166&an=0&page=0


Also, keep looking. You may find one or more in better condition & possibly one or two for other peoples cars due to how the sub-assembly lines were run at the plants.

Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1365993
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As Barry said

Bottom line? DON'T LAMINATE IT!

Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: DPelletier] #1365994
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The best think to do with a BS is to put it in an acid proof cover and store it in a dark, humidity controlled space somewhere where it won't get lost.

If you put it in a display frame, it will deteriorate due to UV but if you decide to do that you can buy UV rated glass for the frame to help. Depends whether it's in a frame to display a few times a year or if it's on your wall somewhere.

...the tag is a tough one, but I'd paint it and use it as-is I think.


Dave



Thanks guys.
Dave, good point on the framing of it. I had just thought of that.
The only qualms about cleaning the tag up was that making it ready for a coat of paint would hurt it more. I guess a light soda blasting would clean the paint up.
I will look through the other thread. Thanks for the link.
Barry, will keep looking. Where do I send the things if I find more? Do you cover all models, or just T/A's? Would the best thing to do be posting it up here in the lost and found section?


1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: OhioMopar] #1365995
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That is up to you. The found section is available here if you want to keep whatever you find until the matching car surfaces.

HH has over 7700 items for all kinds of different Mopars listed by VIN so folks can look for their own VIN there. I do require that the actual item(s) be sent in though. See http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/found.shtml

For your display purposes make a color scan & print out as many as you need. Keep at least one copy handy so you do not have to handle the original any more than needed.

Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1365996
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Sending what(if) I find it isn't a problem. I would rather see It go to someone who has the right 'connections' to forward it in case someone needs it.
Good idea on the scan. Thanks!

Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: OhioMopar] #1365997
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I laminated the one for my GTX 25 years ago and have never regretted it. It is as pristine as the day I did it. Overall, I doubt that any other method would have worked as well.


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Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: 6PakBee] #1365998
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The previous owner of my 73 Challenger had the build sheet for it laminated. It looks real nice. It was done atleast 7 or 8 years ago.

Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: OhioMopar] #1365999
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Never laminate a buildsheet . In time it can damage the sheet, and
limits the ability to perform authinticity tests on the sheet if the need ever arises
. The only case I could see for lamination, is if the sheet is very deteriorated, fragmented, etc. and it may be the best way to keep it all together .

Greg





That's the biggest reason not to laminate it. The idea behind preserving a broadcast sheet is to preserve it, not to make it "pretty". What counts is the ability to determine if it's real in a land of fakes, and to be able to read the information on it. Condition is what it is, leave it alone, make a color scan for show and tell, stabilize it in a protective sheet, store it properly, done.

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I too,have had mine in laminate for over 20 years...

The thought was preservation, and strength of a paper document that was 20+ years old...

I can attest to its authenticity because I'm the one who pulled it out of the seat springs...

It looks the same today as it did when I covered it...

Re: Build sheet preservation. [Re: RSNOMO] #1366001
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The most dangerous enemy is being exposed to the air. I sealed mine in a baggy. Easily stored with my other documentation and protects against deterioration. It's also accessible for authentication.

I made a photocopy for display purposes.

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Quote:

Never laminate a buildsheet . In time it can damage the sheet, and
limits the ability to perform authinticity tests on the sheet if the need ever arises
. The only case I could see for lamination, is if the sheet is very deteriorated, fragmented, etc. and it may be the best way to keep it all together .

Greg





That's the biggest reason not to laminate it. The idea behind preserving a broadcast sheet is to preserve it, not to make it "pretty". What counts is the ability to determine if it's real in a land of fakes, and to be able to read the information on it. Condition is what it is, leave it alone, make a color scan for show and tell, stabilize it in a protective sheet, store it properly, done.






I wouldn't laminate. My sheet is kept clean, dry and away from UV light and I have a half dozen hi-res color photocopies to use at shows or whatever. The sheet is mint and if it has survived the last 40 years stuck under the rear seat while the car sat in an unheated chicken coupe, I'm sure it will last another 40 the way it is now.


Dave


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They didn't laminate the Declaration of Independence or other important documents. I wouldn't laminate my only original build sheet either.

If it is an important or rare car, you would want to retain the option of being able to prove the sheet is real. Also, there is no guarantee the plastic you cover the sheet in won't discolor or deteriorate over time. It is not reversable.

Obviously light and humidity are enemies. Keeping it in a stable environment and in an acid free sleeve is a good start.

Similarly with rare and collectible posters, you don't want to dry mount them as it is not reversible.

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They didn't laminate the Declaration of Independence or other important documents. I wouldn't laminate my only original build sheet either.

If it is an important or rare car, you would want to retain the option of being able to prove the sheet is real. Also, there is no guarantee the plastic you cover the sheet in won't discolor or deteriorate over time. It is not reversable.

Obviously light and humidity are enemies. Keeping it in a stable environment and in an acid free sleeve is a good start.




I found mine in the late 70's, and it's been in an acid-free sleeve now for the last 10 yrs. or so. Still in perfect condition now after 35 years, and I can slide it out of the sleeve any time I want.

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As Barry said

Bottom line? DON'T LAMINATE IT!




DOOH TO LATE !!! I laminated several around 1988 and fortunately they still look the same, the day it was done, thats been 25 years ago.

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