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vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate #1357615 12/23/12 01:15 PM 12/23/12 01:15 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc E earthmover OP top fuel
earthmover OP top fuel E Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc	going to be running a toilet set up and a vac. pump any of you guys care to share any pics of how you mount all your stuff??? alter. as well if possible..

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: earthmover] #1357616 12/23/12 01:40 PM 12/23/12 01:40 PM
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MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	I don't know if I have any pictures but will check,might be best to buy the pump mount from Ron's it mounts on the passenger side of engine 2 bolts to the timing cover,mount the vacuum pump on the drivers side motor plate,finding room for the alt. might be a problem.But on a door car you might be able to space them out a little more for some extra space for the alt.. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1357617 12/23/12 02:05 PM 12/23/12 02:05 PM
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earthmover OP top fuel E Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc	ok that easy enough I got the mount but thought it would need to mount to the motor plate.. thank you sir.. that cuts back on the stress

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: earthmover] #1357618 12/23/12 02:44 PM 12/23/12 02:44 PM
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Deepockets super stock D Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 939 glendora, ca.	just up front of the motor plate works ok.

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: Deepockets] #1357619 12/23/12 03:00 PM 12/23/12 03:00 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	No Fuel pump, but it would easily fit where the accumulator is. A word to the wise. Pulling vacuum from the fuel pump block off plate didn't work. Doug 7515539-0520121701a.jpg (195 downloads)

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: dvw] #1357620 12/23/12 03:46 PM 12/23/12 03:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama Mopar-Al master
Mopar-Al master Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama	Why didnt pulling vacuum from the fuel block off plate work for you? I had considered this, now I'm wondering. Was it pulling a lot of oil? Or to much windage?

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: Mopar-Al] #1357621 12/23/12 04:04 PM 12/23/12 04:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas	There is just to much oil flying around in there with most typical Mopar oil pan set ups. There is a lot of oil in suspension in the typical Mopar engine with the pans most guys run to pull vac from there. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: Al_Alguire] #1357622 12/23/12 04:08 PM 12/23/12 04:08 PM
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Mopar-Al master Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama	I was thinking that might be the issue. That's why I had'nt bought it. I almost did yesterday, but thought I would have to make a shield for it. Then it got to deep in thought. I decided I was going to stay on top.

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: Mopar-Al] #1357623 12/23/12 10:59 PM 12/23/12 10:59 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	I thought I'd be fine with A Jessel, no timing chain. I sucked oil at 4000 RPM just sitting in the garage. It has a aluminum pan with only 9 Qts. Level is plenty low. I moved it to the front of the rocker cover, we'll see how it works. Doug

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: dvw] #1357624 12/24/12 12:56 AM 12/24/12 12:56 AM
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hvyweight member H Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 190 Winterpeg, Canada	Does your pan have a kick out? Are you running a crank scaper? My personal experience is the fuel plate is the best spot especially if you are pushrod oiling.

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: hvyweight] #1357625 12/24/12 08:36 AM 12/24/12 08:36 AM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	Quote: Does your pan have a kick out? Are you running a crank scaper? My personal experience is the fuel plate is the best spot especially if you are pushrod oiling. The pan has a Kick out, a screen style scraper, and it is oiled thru the push rods. On initial fire up it filled the reservoir for the vacuum pump in about 10 minutes of running and puked it out the top. Thought it would be great location. The cam and crank (even though they are perfectly round in this area) must grab more oil than I would have thought. Doug

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: dvw] #1357626 12/24/12 12:23 PM 12/24/12 12:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas	A side kick out pan and scraper are good starts. A PROPERLY designed pan goes a long way to control windage and oil in suspension in a BB Mopar but they need to be correctly designed pieces that control the oil. Most of the stuff we see is not designed very well and leave a lot to be desired. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: dvw] #1357627 12/24/12 09:27 PM 12/24/12 09:27 PM
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hvyweight member H Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 190 Winterpeg, Canada	Quote: Quote: Does your pan have a kick out? Are you running a crank scaper? My personal experience is the fuel plate is the best spot especially if you are pushrod oiling. The pan has a Kick out, a screen style scraper, and it is oiled thru the push rods. On initial fire up it filled the reservoir for the vacuum pump in about 10 minutes of running and puked it out the top. Thought it would be great location. The cam and crank (even though they are perfectly round in this area) must grab more oil than I would have thought. Doug How deep is the pan? I had a deep Charlies pan when I had my 588 in the Plymouth. It was about 9 inches deep with a kick out. I ran about 7 quarts in that pan. Now I have a dragster style in my Barracuda. It is 5.25 inches deep and I have the same problem as you. I am planning to add a kick out and a scaper. I have talked to lots of people and they all agree get the oil away from the crank as far as possible. Having a properly designed oil pan with a scraper and some form of a windage tray is the way to go. BTW how much vaccumm are you trying to pull? Mike 7517361-100_0033.JPG (156 downloads) Last edited by hvyweight; 12/24/12 09:36 PM.

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: hvyweight] #1357628 12/25/12 12:48 PM 12/25/12 12:48 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	I will set the vacuum at 12"-15"hg. It has a GZ kit. The pan is a Charlies with a though hole for the drag link. I forget hoe deep but it's a deep as could go in the car. Doug 7517937-417.jpg (159 downloads)

Re: vac. pump and fuel pump big block motor plate [Re: dvw] #1357629 12/25/12 12:50 PM 12/25/12 12:50 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	The updated plumbing. 7517939-463.jpg (215 downloads)

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