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Old dealershp research #1354935
12/18/12 01:25 PM
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I am looking at a car that has a reproduction window sticker that states the selling dealer was: Southern Motors 901 S. Main St., High Point, N.C.
I have tried to locate this dealership with no luck. Does anyone know if there is a data base that actually shows the names and locations of the old dealerships?
Do the companies that make the window stickers pull names out of their butts?
Thanks guys.

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: 2JcodeChargers] #1354936
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There are several hundred dealers listed in the link below. I have heard there is a book with the dealers listed but have no info about it. Perhaps another member will have more info about the book.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/vintageDealerships.shtml


Re: Old dealershp research [Re: moparfan53] #1354937
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Re: Old dealershp research [Re: 2JcodeChargers] #1354938
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I am looking at a car that has a reproduction window sticker that states the selling dealer was: Southern Motors 901 S. Main St., High Point, N.C.
I have tried to locate this dealership with no luck. Does anyone know if there is a data base that actually shows the names and locations of the old dealerships?
Do the companies that make the window stickers pull names out of their butts?
Thanks guys.




My car came with a repop window sticker that the previous owner had the "guru" make with a dealership in Colorado listed on.

Is there a way to detemine from a build sheet where the car was sold new or is it pure BS?

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: KillerBee] #1354939
12/18/12 04:34 PM
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No dealership data on broadcast sheets.

Some of the newer ones (mid 1970s) do have a state code but that is it.

"New" window stickers are full of guesses & sometimes outright lies.

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1354940
12/18/12 04:53 PM
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Southern Motors was the dealership sponsor on the 1/4s of Richard Petty's Daytona 500 winning '71 RR (& others).

A popular "wish my car was sold there" choice for a reproduction window sticker. Dealer code 64608

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: 6bblgt] #1354941
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6bblgt,
Thanks for the reply on Petty's car. I contacted a Dodge store who's address is only 2 blocks away from the address for Southern Motors on the windowsticker and they have been selling Dodges there since 1950 and they told me they had never heard of a Southern Motors in High Point.

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: 2JcodeChargers] #1354942
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Is this the address you have?

SOUTHERN CHRYSLER PLYMOUTH INC
901 SOUTH MAIN STREET
HIGH POINT NORTH CAROLINA 27260

I see you listed the address in the original post.

Here's an authentic window sticker from Southern Motors in '73.

7509525-3B560401-ws.jpg (479 downloads)
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Re: Old dealershp research [Re: KillerBee] #1354943
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I am looking at a car that has a reproduction window sticker that states the selling dealer was: Southern Motors 901 S. Main St., High Point, N.C.
I have tried to locate this dealership with no luck. Does anyone know if there is a data base that actually shows the names and locations of the old dealerships?
Do the companies that make the window stickers pull names out of their butts?
Thanks guys.


my car came with a bogus window sticker too! lucky me i have the real orig. the gg. copy said " burnside dodge" charleston sc. the real one is Clark motor company, Myrtle Beach SC.29577 don't believe everything the experts certify.

My car came with a repop window sticker that the previous owner had the "guru" make with a dealership in Colorado listed on.

Is there a way to detemine from a build sheet where the car was sold new or is it pure BS?


myrtle beach is not in charleston and burnside dodge is not clark motors !!the fbi gave me a photocopy of a window sticker that was with my car when recovered..

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Re: Old dealershp research [Re: ek3] #1354944
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Is there anyway to see if info still exists on an old dealership??
Our RR came from Rittenhouse Motors in Maumee Ohio. They have been out of business for a long time but both our 69 RR's came from there New. We have the sales paperwork for 1 of the cars just not the car we still own.
I know who the original owner was and talked to him one time but can't seem to get ahold of him now.
Does anyone have old dealership paperwork??
This may be a bad question but Oh well it never hurts to try.
Thanks David

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: His and Her 69's] #1354945
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Southern motors has been out of business for years. I remember it well. I had an aunt that lived just down the street form the carlot. I remember seeing one of Petty's cars in the small showroom.

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Re: Old dealershp research [Re: 2JcodeChargers] #1354946
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My cars came from Roseville Chrysler in late 1969 and the other one from Birmingham Chrysler Plymouth. Birminghams is not on the Hamtramck registry. Ill have to get the dealer info to them to add to their list.


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Re: Old dealershp research [Re: drmopar] #1354947
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Thanks, but no need.

Once I heard that dealership books exist with all of the names, I stopped adding them one by one. It would take a lot less time to sit down with one of the books & do it all at once.

I just need one of the books.

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: His and Her 69's] #1354948
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Is there anyway to see if info still exists on an old dealership??

Thanks David




One of these will help if you can find one.

7510767-PC190569.JPG (344 downloads)
Re: Old dealershp research [Re: 62maxwgn] #1354949
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The location of the old Southern motors in High Point is now part of Gulford Tec Comm Coll. They were teaching an automotive class in the old building.

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: 62maxwgn] #1354950
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Is there anyway to see if info still exists on an old dealership??

Thanks David




One of these will help if you can find one.




I have those from 1988 (Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge & Jeep/Eagle) many musclecar era dealers were long gone, changed names or moved.

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: 6bblgt] #1354951
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Is there anyway to see if info still exists on an old dealership??

Thanks David




One of these will help if you can find one.




I have those from 1988 (Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge & Jeep/Eagle) many musclecar era dealers were long gone, changed names or moved.




This one has no Jeep dealers listed.

Re: Old dealershp research [Re: 62maxwgn] #1354952
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Sorry, I wasn't clear - there is another volume with Jeep/Eagle dealerships (some that are current CDJF ??).

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Re: Old dealershp research [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1354953
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Thanks, but no need.

Once I heard that dealership books exist with all of the names, I stopped adding them one by one. It would take a lot less time to sit down with one of the books & do it all at once.

I just need one of the books.




I've had the same idea, Barry. From what I understand, you'd need a lot more than one... Dealerships came and went and dealer codes were reused. Each year's books were pretty thick and were not available to the public. The traveler's guides don't list all the dealerships, only the ones with large parts and service departments near major roads and highways. The ones I've seen don't have dealer codes. There were a lot of dealerships in small cities and towns that sold several car brands, tractors, irrigation systems, etc. but couldn't service a new car. Same for smaller dealerships in bigger cities.

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I would be happy with the 1970 dealership version.

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