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TIMING QUESTION #1351796 12/15/12 07:40 PM 12/15/12 07:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,682 On the parachute mount N n20mstr OP master
n20mstr OP master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,682 On the parachute mount	How high have you been? THe higher i go the faster it goes, where should i stop? ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: n20mstr] #1351797 12/15/12 07:46 PM 12/15/12 07:46 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,551 baldwinsville new york A a493demon pro stock
a493demon pro stock A Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,551 baldwinsville new york	i would stop at 68 at 69 she might blow a rod.

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: n20mstr] #1351798 12/15/12 10:54 PM 12/15/12 10:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: How high have you been? THe higher i go the faster it goes, where should i stop? On the motor or on spray? (If motor only, DON'T ask SSR!!) What's the A/F ratio now? If you're spraying it, you tune it EXACTLY like it's on just nuts....start out with the timing conservative....keep leaning it out until it stops gaining trap speed...AND THEN add timing 1 degree at a time until it stops gaining trap speed...you want to run as little timing as possible and run the best trap speed... There is only one thing that will kill a motor...detonation...and there are only three things that cause it....Too much timing...Not high enough octane fuel for the amount of cylinder pressure you're making...or oil getting into the combustion process somehow...usually passed the rings from running way too rich or out of round cylinders or passed the intake gasket or valve guides... Thank me later... If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: Big Squeeze] #1351799 12/16/12 01:20 AM 12/16/12 01:20 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 Lunch is on me!
joshking440 Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Monte stole Wayne's login

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: joshking440] #1351800 12/16/12 01:27 AM 12/16/12 01:27 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: Monte stole Wayne's login LOL.....No, the only Mopar site he goes to is yours!! Tuning gasoline is all the same...don't matter if it's NA, turbo, blower or nitrous..... Most people over-rocketeer it...If someone really understands NA tuning, nitrous is a breeze..... I did a LOT of naturally aspirated tuning and fooled with nitrous a little before I called Monte and asked him what it would take to stop by my shop and give me a 1 on 1 nitrous class....after the class I was freaked out that nitrous was NO different than what I'd been doing all along with NA motors... If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: Big Squeeze] #1351801 12/16/12 01:23 PM 12/16/12 01:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,682 On the parachute mount N n20mstr OP master
n20mstr OP master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,682 On the parachute mount	hmmmmmmmm..... 20 spread 4lbs fuel and 5* total timing ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: n20mstr] #1351802 12/16/12 10:08 PM 12/16/12 10:08 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: hmmmmmmmm..... 20 spread 4lbs fuel and 5* total timing That doesn't tell me much...I have no idea how many lbs/hour of nitrous you're using....have no idea if you have quench....have no idea if you have a domed piston...have no idea if your carburetor's A/F ratio is dialed in and maxed out...have no idea what the A/f ratio is...Is that someone's starting tune up, or is that where you've come to and it's no longer going any quicker by leaning it out? 4psi isn't necessarily bad but that's getting really close to being low enough to not get good flow to all the nozzles or filling up the spray bars so you can get good/even distribution.... I've seen you post that you have a RacePak...What's the A/F ratio on spray? At what A/F did the motor make max power on nuts? Even with a 20 jet spread and 4psi, if the A/F is in the 10's or 11's you have a long way to go... If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: Big Squeeze] #1351803 12/16/12 10:55 PM 12/16/12 10:55 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 Lunch is on me!
joshking440 Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	I think stash master is just posting up random numbers Wayne.

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: joshking440] #1351804 12/16/12 11:01 PM 12/16/12 11:01 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: I think stash master is just posting up random numbers Wayne. He may be...he may not be... If so, what's the point of this thread? If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: Big Squeeze] #1351805 12/16/12 11:47 PM 12/16/12 11:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,682 On the parachute mount N n20mstr OP master
n20mstr OP master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,682 On the parachute mount	Quote: Quote: I think stash master is just posting up random numbers Wayne. He may be...he may not be... If so, what's the point of this thread? the point is to see if i can find those missing straps ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: n20mstr] #1351806 12/17/12 12:26 AM 12/17/12 12:26 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 213 poughquag, NY 440GTX enthusiast
440GTX enthusiast Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 213 poughquag, NY	Quote: Quote: Quote: I think stash master is just posting up random numbers Wayne. He may be...he may not be... If so, what's the point of this thread? the point is to see if i can find those missing straps Need to try 70 degrees of timing LOL you are the man tony !!!!!!!!

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: n20mstr] #1351807 12/17/12 10:16 AM 12/17/12 10:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	Quote: Quote: Quote: I think stash master is just posting up random numbers Wayne. He may be...he may not be... If so, what's the point of this thread? the point is to see if i can find those missing straps Only YOU tony HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: n20mstr] #1351808 12/17/12 11:26 AM 12/17/12 11:26 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	I have mine set at 41 right now in my stock stroke 440 5000 stall 7400 shifts picked up 37 to 39 then more 39 to 41 but I stopped there for this year. Cam, heads, piston design, rpms all affect it so advance till it quits gaining et and maybe more important MPH and maybe take 1 deg back out at that point. My EA computer dyno program says 41 to 42 so??

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: Dodgem] #1351809 12/17/12 01:00 PM 12/17/12 01:00 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: I have mine set at 41 right now in my stock stroke 440 5000 stall 7400 shifts picked up 37 to 39 then more 39 to 41 but I stopped there for this year. Cam, heads, piston design, rpms all affect it so advance till it quits gaining et and maybe more important MPH and maybe take 1 deg back out at that point. My EA computer dyno program says 41 to 42 so?? What`s this program you speak of...........I`d like to see what it says about my junk. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: Thumperdart] #1351810 12/17/12 01:50 PM 12/17/12 01:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	Start off at 50-60 total. Then as you replace parts retard it little by little till you hit the sweet spot. A good rule of thumb if you are replacing big parts retard it more, if small parts less. Good luck with it!!! If you have any problems there is a guy up in your neck of the woods that uses this methods. I am sure he would be glad to help you out. Lol Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: Dodgem] #1351811 12/17/12 04:05 PM 12/17/12 04:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,213 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,213 Bend,OR USA	Quote: I have mine set at 41 right now in my stock stroke 440 5000 stall 7400 shifts picked up 37 to 39 then more 39 to 41 but I stopped there for this year. Cam, heads, piston design, rpms all affect it so advance till it quits gaining et and maybe more important MPH and maybe take 1 deg back out at that point. My EA computer dyno program says 41 to 42 so?? Me thinks the data inputted on your EA program was for Chevys, not BB Mopars Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: Cab_Burge] #1351812 12/17/12 06:44 PM 12/17/12 06:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,640 in a cattle trailer down by th... G Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,640 in a cattle trailer down by th...	Mohammad Ghandi can tell you. "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: Guitar Jones] #1351813 12/17/12 07:01 PM 12/17/12 07:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,627 anywhere@ anytime A actionange top fuel
actionange top fuel A Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,627 anywhere@ anytime	Quote: Mohammad Ghandi can tell you. Let me correct that- MOHELIUS. Mohatama's brother

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: actionange] #1351814 12/17/12 09:22 PM 12/17/12 09:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	When this happens,reduce timing by 20 spread 7507704-IMG_4309.JPG (80 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: TIMING QUESTION [Re: hemi-itis] #1351815 12/17/12 09:24 PM 12/17/12 09:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	BTW,,,,,,,the straps were in the oil pan 7507708-IMG_4308.JPG (70 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

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