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Alky vs Race Gas #1344555
12/01/12 02:13 PM
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Is an alky set up worth the money going too? Is it worth all the maintenance and hassle? Can race gas make as much power or more as the alky but would it be any cheaper or is alky just going to be plane out right cheaper in the long run?

Re: Alky vs Race Gas [Re: Sb Valiant] #1344556
12/01/12 02:42 PM
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Alcholol is a big pain to use, milking of the oil, hard staring when cold,stinks without additive and so on, the benifits are if you have to run race gas the alcholol setup will make the motor run cooler. One bad thing about alcholol is when there is a fire most people don't see the flames so there slow reacting to the fire I dyno tested one of my motors, 11.7 to 1 comp. ratio on race gas and then on the local E85, it tested out to be E90 and the motor made one more HP and no more torque on the mix More better make a pump gas motor and run it


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Re: Alky vs Race Gas [Re: Cab_Burge] #1344557
12/01/12 03:58 PM
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I have seen several guys go from race gas to an injected alky( methenol) setup like a flying toilet and pickup 2 tenths or better and a good bit more torque.
Snappier throttle response and better 60 foot are likely benefits as well.


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Re: Alky vs Race Gas [Re: B3422W5] #1344558
12/01/12 07:30 PM
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Alky is a pain to use and milks oil if not set up correctly do yourself a favor and have a known company like apd set the carb up you will be happy guys always say it doesnt make any differnce well maybe not in big cube high hp motors but in most cases seen 2-3 tenths when set up right .And 55 gallon drum cheaper than race gas by far upper end lube and fragrance included 130.00

Re: Alky vs Race Gas [Re: top8x7b] #1344559
12/02/12 06:36 PM
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Ron's & James Monroe can both set you up with one of their injectors & have the tune up almost dead perfect.Its a must have for Bracket Racing or any other class where you have round robin racing,if nothing else but for the cooling effect.
We have been getting some new engines and much to my surprise because everyone picks up with alcohol,on the Dyno the engines make a little more peak horse-power with the race fuel.But the engines makes enough more torque on alcohol to make up the hp different and then some.
On 100 degree days down here in Dixie I make a run and if I don't have to go straight back to the staging lanes,kill the engine cutoff both water pump & fan.No cooling problems is the #1 reason for running alcohol & the added power is just a +.

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Re: Alky vs Race Gas [Re: Sb Valiant] #1344560
12/02/12 08:38 PM
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And then there are people like me that won't have enough room for an adequate radiator for gas.
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Re: Alky vs Race Gas [Re: Cab_Burge] #1344561
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Alcholol is a big pain to use, milking of the oil, hard staring when cold,stinks without additive and so on, the benifits are if you have to run race gas the alcholol setup will make the motor run cooler. One bad thing about alcholol is when there is a fire most people don't see the flames so there slow reacting to the fire I dyno tested one of my motors, 11.7 to 1 comp. ratio on race gas and then on the local E85, it tested out to be E90 and the motor made one more HP and no more torque on the mix More better make a pump gas motor and run it




about the only thing I agree with there is the last sentance...

alky all the way for me. the added maintenance is a myth unless your a complete moron. Two factors that would push me towards gas, racing in colder climates, using lots of NOS. Most bracket motors do great on alky. When you get well over 600ci they seem to like gas better.







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