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Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: B G Racing] #1340753
11/27/12 06:58 PM
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We like to use 100%Argon.There are a veriaty of rods if you preferr stick welding.What rod depends on the nickle content of the cast iron.What ever method you use peen each weld application as you weld.I don't suggest any novice take on this type of welding you can ruin parts very easy and create a unrepairable mess.




Good point! Would you know the nickel content of the current Mopar Performance 426 HEMI high nickel cast iron blocks

Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: docford] #1340754
01/17/13 05:54 AM
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the welding repair of both block and head worked fine thanks to y'all for your advice

Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: docford] #1340755
01/17/13 01:37 PM
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Use any cast filler material that has the lest amont of nickle content for easier machining.With some of the new filler materials you don't have to extensively pre-heat.

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Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: B G Racing] #1340756
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Have it spray metal welded. When I was going to DeAnza College, a student was surfacing his 440 block when he accidentally hit the vertical control on the VUlcan surfacer. Needless to say, there was a canyon sized gouge ground into the deck surface. The instructor heard the commotion, came about to calm the student, assessed the situation and cooly replied "we can fix this". The block was heated in the oven and then the machin was used to fill in the gap. If you seen the block, you couldn't even tell it was repaired.

Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: docford] #1340757
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the welding repair of both block and head worked fine thanks to y'all for your advice




Glad it worked out for you.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: pittsburghracer] #1340758
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the welding repair of both block and head worked fine thanks to y'all for your advice




Glad it worked out for you.


Thanks for letting us know your block picture look exactly like my 440 block and max wedge head did, sickening when it happens It's all fixable


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: docford] #1340759
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Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: pittsburghracer] #1340760
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The last two that I repaired I tigged. My stick welding skills are slowly eroding since I retired from Millwright work 3 years ago. In my shop I either grab the mig or tig. Check out this link if you are going with stick. I used a 3/32 rod. Like Bob said protect surrounding areas from splatter. I use fiberglass cloth and a product called kayo-wool. Keep covered to let it cool slowly after the repair is done. Some guys want to make a simple repair into a project.
http://www.messerwelding.com/Product%20PDFs/by%20part/MG%20765.pdf




There is a new 55 wire for mig welding cast.




What gas do they use Bob?

These guys would crap if they saw what we did back in 1985 the week the bad tornadoes came thru. I had a guy weld the deck of my 440 and a head between 3-5 and I filed it flat with a file. Was back racing 2 days later.

A man's gotta do what a man gotta do.





I found the block I was talking about above (1985) so I too k picture in case this post came up again. This block was stick welded in the car and he didn't believe me when I said I would take my time and file it down after he welded it. When I came to pick up the car the next day he had it all filed down and ready to go. He couldn't believe anyone could get it filed flat that way so he gave it a try. Instead of 125 dollars for welding the block and head he would only take 100 dollars cause he said he learned something. He did accept some nickle rod I offered. Hurt one weekend, racing the next weekend. I used this block for a few years and another member just bought it to put in his street car hopefully to be out this summer.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: docford] #1340761
01/17/13 10:47 PM
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could we have some info on your LeMans effort?

Re: welding a 1969 HEMI block [Re: 6PAK70CUDA] #1340762
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