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56 Dodge pickup front end #1324899
10/23/12 11:53 AM
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Should be picking up a new project soon.. wondered if any of you guys have put a mustange II front end in one or what they are doing..


79 Dodge Aspen
12.265 at 109.75 MPH

67 Satellite NSS/E
11.83 @ 110

1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi

3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street.
'07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: kissmyaspen] #1324900
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Let me be the first to say Dakota front frame swap.

Actually, the MII works great, you can buy every part on the aftermarket and it is plenty strong enough for a street rod pickup. But the sentiment here is "keep it Mopar" so the Dak frame wins.

Fatman Fabrications is a good place to start on front ends.

R.

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: dogdays] #1324901
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I'm lazy, when I did the frame all the following was done: brake lines, master cylinder, disc brakes, rack and pinion, bed floor, fuel tank, and steering shaft.

Here's what I had to fab up to make it work: mate the steering shaft, move the motor back and make mounts cab, engine and transmission, hang a brake pedal.

It time to make a build thread for my pick up.


56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: moparpollack] #1324902
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current state

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56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: moparpollack] #1324903
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here is what im starting with


79 Dodge Aspen
12.265 at 109.75 MPH

67 Satellite NSS/E
11.83 @ 110

1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi

3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street.
'07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: kissmyaspen] #1324904
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http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=710598&highlight=dakota+frame

Look halfway down the page at he red 56, the frame fits really good.


56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: moparpollack] #1324905
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i would vote for the dakota too----mustangII is just an ok front end----most racers will admit that MII can be overwhelmed by horse power---even the MII guys upgrade to granada stuff which also ranks behind the dakota---another front and rear clip to consider for a hot rod is Jaguar MK6---they are bolt off/weld back on setups with superior brakes--and the jag rear is a dana 44 which you can buy anything for--just ask the jeep guys....bob

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: moparpollack] #1324906
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Quote:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=710598&highlight=dakota+frame

Look halfway down the page at he red 56, the frame fits really good.



a full frame swap sounds like the way to go.. now to figure out what i will need.. reg cab short bed or long bed.


79 Dodge Aspen
12.265 at 109.75 MPH

67 Satellite NSS/E
11.83 @ 110

1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi

3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street.
'07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: kissmyaspen] #1324907
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1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD)
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
2013 R/T classic
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: kissmyaspen] #1324908
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Google search the Dakota wheel base and there should be three. Luckily the front tires to the back of the cab were the same on both trucks. The frames can be shortened but I didn't need to do that.


56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: moparpollack] #1324909
10/29/12 11:21 PM
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somewhat on topic



The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: bigdad] #1324910
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90% sure im going to do a full dakota frame swap.. got the truck on saturday so now time to dissasemble and rebuild. lots of work.


79 Dodge Aspen
12.265 at 109.75 MPH

67 Satellite NSS/E
11.83 @ 110

1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi

3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street.
'07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: kissmyaspen] #1324911
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If you don't have a lift and your friend does you have a new best friend.

The Trucks come apart easily but the bodies get in the way until you scrap the unneeded stuff.


56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: moparpollack] #1324912
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Quote:

If you don't have a lift and your friend does you have a new best friend.

The Trucks come apart easily but the bodies get in the way until you scrap the unneeded stuff.



We have 4 lifts .. Only bad part is that's how we make our money.. So have to find good stopping points when I do work on it at our shop. Like to get a lot of the big stuff done at the shop then do body work in my garage st home.


79 Dodge Aspen
12.265 at 109.75 MPH

67 Satellite NSS/E
11.83 @ 110

1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi

3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street.
'07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: kissmyaspen] #1324913
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A newer Dakota looks funny on an old chassis DAMHIK. The guy at the scrap yard didn't like it either because they weren't bolted together.

My first measurement was from the back of the cab to the front wheel centerline. This helped me see how far back into the bed I was when moving cabs. Luckily on my Plymouth they were both 60". If possible work on the cab then the bed. My brakes and steering fell right into place afterward. If I had more info I could give it to you but there are quite a few pilot house builds on the HAMB.


56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: moparpollack] #1324914
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Looking at a 93 dak. I figure get the cab on and center the front wheels in the wheel well and work from there.

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: kissmyaspen] #1324915
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You may have seen my 57. It sets on the forward half of an 88 Dak frame and the rear half is shortened, narrowed and boxed 57. You can set the ride height by how far down over the frame that you set the body.

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Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: kissmyaspen] #1324917
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post lots of pics please


1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD)
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
2013 R/T classic
Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end [Re: fstfish66] #1324918
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03 and newer Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Towncar. Front clip/engine cradle is bolted in with 4 bolts. IIRC the frame width is 34"

Kevin

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