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56 Dodge pickup front end

Posted By: kissmyaspen

56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/23/12 04:53 PM

Should be picking up a new project soon.. wondered if any of you guys have put a mustange II front end in one or what they are doing..
Posted By: dogdays

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/23/12 05:55 PM

Let me be the first to say Dakota front frame swap.

Actually, the MII works great, you can buy every part on the aftermarket and it is plenty strong enough for a street rod pickup. But the sentiment here is "keep it Mopar" so the Dak frame wins.

Fatman Fabrications is a good place to start on front ends.

R.
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/23/12 06:53 PM

I'm lazy, when I did the frame all the following was done: brake lines, master cylinder, disc brakes, rack and pinion, bed floor, fuel tank, and steering shaft.

Here's what I had to fab up to make it work: mate the steering shaft, move the motor back and make mounts cab, engine and transmission, hang a brake pedal.

It time to make a build thread for my pick up.
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/23/12 07:47 PM

current state

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Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/23/12 09:21 PM

here is what im starting with

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Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/23/12 09:33 PM

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=710598&highlight=dakota+frame

Look halfway down the page at he red 56, the frame fits really good.
Posted By: savoy64

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/23/12 11:04 PM

i would vote for the dakota too----mustangII is just an ok front end----most racers will admit that MII can be overwhelmed by horse power---even the MII guys upgrade to granada stuff which also ranks behind the dakota---another front and rear clip to consider for a hot rod is Jaguar MK6---they are bolt off/weld back on setups with superior brakes--and the jag rear is a dana 44 which you can buy anything for--just ask the jeep guys....bob
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/24/12 03:39 PM

Quote:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=710598&highlight=dakota+frame

Look halfway down the page at he red 56, the frame fits really good.



a full frame swap sounds like the way to go.. now to figure out what i will need.. reg cab short bed or long bed.
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/25/12 07:31 AM

subsrcibed
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/25/12 10:40 PM

Google search the Dakota wheel base and there should be three. Luckily the front tires to the back of the cab were the same on both trucks. The frames can be shortened but I didn't need to do that.
Posted By: bigdad

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/30/12 04:21 AM

somewhat on topic

Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/30/12 02:00 PM

90% sure im going to do a full dakota frame swap.. got the truck on saturday so now time to dissasemble and rebuild. lots of work.
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/30/12 11:25 PM

If you don't have a lift and your friend does you have a new best friend.

The Trucks come apart easily but the bodies get in the way until you scrap the unneeded stuff.
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/31/12 02:24 AM

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If you don't have a lift and your friend does you have a new best friend.

The Trucks come apart easily but the bodies get in the way until you scrap the unneeded stuff.



We have 4 lifts .. Only bad part is that's how we make our money.. So have to find good stopping points when I do work on it at our shop. Like to get a lot of the big stuff done at the shop then do body work in my garage st home.
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/31/12 02:43 AM

A newer Dakota looks funny on an old chassis DAMHIK. The guy at the scrap yard didn't like it either because they weren't bolted together.

My first measurement was from the back of the cab to the front wheel centerline. This helped me see how far back into the bed I was when moving cabs. Luckily on my Plymouth they were both 60". If possible work on the cab then the bed. My brakes and steering fell right into place afterward. If I had more info I could give it to you but there are quite a few pilot house builds on the HAMB.
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/31/12 03:00 AM

Looking at a 93 dak. I figure get the cab on and center the front wheels in the wheel well and work from there.
Posted By: rattler

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/31/12 03:21 AM

You may have seen my 57. It sets on the forward half of an 88 Dak frame and the rear half is shortened, narrowed and boxed 57. You can set the ride height by how far down over the frame that you set the body.

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Posted By: rattler

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/31/12 03:25 AM

another

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Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/03/12 06:56 AM

post lots of pics please
Posted By: Twostick

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/04/12 09:12 PM

03 and newer Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Towncar. Front clip/engine cradle is bolted in with 4 bolts. IIRC the frame width is 34"

Kevin
Posted By: poorboy

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/05/12 03:44 AM

Did I not read the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis subframe has a pretty wide tire track and needs modification for the tires to fit under the fenders of the 50s Dodge trucks? Gene
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/05/12 03:59 AM

63.4 inches for the front track on the Merc/Vic
Posted By: Randy..

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/05/12 06:41 AM

just got a 56 about a month ago, i'm keeping the I Beam just made new spring pads and flipped the axle on top of the springs and doing a rear flip this week, will post pics in a day or two, yours looks better than mine.
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/06/12 02:48 PM

hope to get a frame this weekend so i can start on this project soon.
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/07/12 12:59 AM

Good luck!
Posted By: rattler

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/07/12 03:35 AM

Let us know how things go. If you have any questions about your build, please ask. I will ofer any help that I can.

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Posted By: rattler

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/07/12 03:37 AM

This is a pic of the 88 Dak frame connected to the narrowed and shortened 57 frame.
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 01/02/13 04:29 PM

well i have a 89 dakota frame all stripped down and ready to be cut and blasted.
Posted By: flyman

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 01/07/13 03:09 AM

I have a pretty god set of rear fenders for your progect if you are intrested.
Posted By: demon

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 01/12/13 04:43 PM

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current state



your pickup looks super! Could you give a few details on your swap? Did you alter the wheelbase or shorten the box? Looks very proportioned. Dakota shortbox pickups have a 112" wheelbase. Is that what you used? How low did you mount the cab to the frame? How much does the box floor step up from the tailgate now?
I'm doing a similar swap and my buddy is going to do a 46 like yours. any details would be great. Thanks!
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 01/22/13 07:07 PM

here are some new pix

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Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 01/22/13 07:09 PM



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Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 01/22/13 07:13 PM



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Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 01/22/13 07:14 PM

ready to be welded

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Posted By: demon

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 01/23/13 03:31 PM

Nice frame! Those Dakota frames were made for shortening. And for the 48-60 Dodge trucks they have very similar engine placement. You can splice the Dakota floor and firewall right into the old cab. Or place the old cab on the new frame and move your cab mounts. You can also use the Dakota box floor and attach your stepside box sides. Dakotas are the ideal doner.
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 01/23/13 08:19 PM

should be welded on friday... then its time to get the cab off the old frame and start fitting before the frame goes to get blasted.
Posted By: 300by500

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 02/03/13 04:56 AM

This is for sale locally and the wheelbase is only 9/10 of an inch shorter than a SWB Dakota. Wheels in my head are spinning....

Love the progress pics!

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Posted By: 300by500

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 02/03/13 04:57 AM

2 door wagon! I want!

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Posted By: rattler

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 02/04/13 12:29 AM

I saw that wagon too. I had to turn the page because I could start to here the project voices in my head.
Posted By: poorboy

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 02/05/13 04:28 AM

I was 10 minutes too late to buy one of those about 15 years ago.
Good thing I'm broke these days, like I need another project at this time anyway.
That one sure looks good! Gene
Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/04/13 01:22 AM

any updates?
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 10/09/13 07:18 AM

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2 door wagon! I want!


kool 2 door,, is that you towing it away ?

love the dakota frame chop,,keep the pics comming,,


Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: 56 Dodge pickup front end - 11/22/13 09:42 PM

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any updates?



No updates on it.. I purchase a 69 coronet and a 68 road runner they took priority.. hope to get back on it when I get them finished, if I could just get a body shop to hurry up..
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