Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Sorry guys, as I said before, those old pics are nostalgic and all but they don't prove a thing concerning them coming that way off the production line.
So Scott,we must all take your word as the final fact and what I and many others who owned,raced and worked for Chrysler know from actual experience and knowledge are full of poo.I have kids your age,respect your elders. Respectfully Bob
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/20/12 02:14 PM
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Sorry guys, as I said before, those old pics are nostalgic and all but they don't prove a thing concerning them coming that way off the production line.
So Scott,we must all take your word as the final fact and what I and many others who owned,raced and worked for Chrysler know from actual experience and knowledge are full of poo.I have kids your age,respect your elders. Respectfully Bob
Agreed ---- and I guess all the nay sayers actually did work on the production line and know this as fact
Like it is always said --- never say never when it comes to what Mopar has done. Pretty hard to look at any car today to say that when it was built 50 years ago you can tell what is/was original or not
Russ
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/20/12 09:04 PM
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WOW! For a minute there I though posting this would be akin to sticking your head out of the foxhole.
This one's a "taint". Taint original, taint modern either. It's the 1981 Keystones.
If You Can't Be Good, At Least Be Colorful
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/21/12 12:06 AM
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At the end of the day, does any of this really matter? I mean, yea its interesting from a historical standpoint (and I'm all for preserving the history and building a car as correct as possible for a nostalgia class), but these were meant to be race cars-not museum pieces. I bet if you were to go up to someone who was there and ran these cars back in the day (and I know several) and whined that their air cleaners are the wrong color, they would point and laugh at you...if you were lucky. Bob, you've probably forgotten more than most of the people here know. I would hope that people respect that. Now, since this is a RACE forum, let's stop worrying about what a car show judge will deduct points for and get back to racing.
Rant off (this is why I don't go to car shows anymore).
They were race cars. I raced the crap out of mine. Many are now museum pieces ( including mine), but I agree, this thread needs to - away.
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/21/12 12:24 AM
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At the end of the day, does any of this really matter? I mean, yea its interesting from a historical standpoint (and I'm all for preserving the history and building a car as correct as possible for a nostalgia class), but these were meant to be race cars-not museum pieces. I bet if you were to go up to someone who was there and ran these cars back in the day (and I know several) and whined that their air cleaners are the wrong color, they would point and laugh at you...if you were lucky. Bob, you've probably forgotten more than most of the people here know. I would hope that people respect that. Now, since this is a RACE forum, let's stop worrying about what a car show judge will deduct points for and get back to racing.
Rant off (this is why I don't go to car shows anymore).
They were race cars. I raced the crap out of mine. Many are now museum pieces ( including mine), but I agree, this thread needs to - away.
Well this has been an interesting thread and it has almost been like a Sienfeld show about nothing really.One last thing though, just seen this picture on ebay and it is of Tom Hoover and 3 friends and they are proudly displaying a complete Max Wedge, air cleaners and all. Ebay Item number 370601894857
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/21/12 10:02 AM
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WOW! For a minute there I though posting this would be akin to sticking your head out of the foxhole.
This one's a "taint". Taint original, taint modern either. It's the 1981 Keystones.
Wow , this brings back some memories. I remember when this pic was taken. Although I don,t have documented proof, this car was supposedly a factory car that was campaigned by the late Bill Jenkins and driven by Dave Strickler for the win at the 1964 Indy Natls. Many years later we rebuilt it and campagned it for many years as a SS/BA car in NHRA Div 1
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/21/12 11:54 AM
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It may be Reds son (the poster), it goes back a ways. There was 3.3 miles on the clock. Lot of fun running that car, and it ran very well for it's time. The last 4-5 years it always finished in the top 10 in Winston points.
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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11/21/12 12:11 PM
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You old farts (and this is coming from a 50 year old) must really like stroking each other?
Scott,like I said I have kids your age,and no we old farts don't like stroking each other,but I sure like stroking you since you feel that anything you utter is gospel.I think your "UDDERLY" redicious and like milking old cow,each stroke brings a smile to my face.Don't take offence to my comments,it's all in good humor and I do respect your knowledge at times but you need to man up when your wrong.If one guy sees a duck he could mistaken it for a goose,if 20 guys seen the duck and call it a duck then it's a duck.It may well be an orange,black or chrome one but a duck none the less.I tried hard to ignore the post but when it continued I just couldn't help but comment. Anyway all is good humor and entertaining,have a great holiday. Respectfully Bob
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/21/12 01:22 PM
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Wow we would really get bad mouthed for our air cleaners! Ha! Can anyone tell me what the base was made from? Ha! But at least our engine is all iron except the intake and valve covers! And Doug your car is gona look great when it's done! Keep up the good work! Look forward to seeing you again!
MFR426
Waffled aluminum as used on Naval ships for 01 deck and above bulkheads? Eh?
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/21/12 01:52 PM
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Bob, respectfully.....No, you have me all wrong. Don't assume that I feel that I am uttering any sort of gospel when it's the furthest thing from the truth just because I choose to "put my head out of the rabbit hole" and debate a claim of originallity. What I'm trying to get accross (apparently which little success) is when someone, anyone comes to the table with an example of a detail that deviates from what was the production line "norm" that they should understand that it will be viewed with skepticism without producing rock solid evidence to back it up before it will be accepted as an actual production line variable or possibility. I am not, and would never say #1. That someone is a liar. #2. That it was impossible. #3. That it never happened. All I am asking for is some backup to prove the claims. Photos of cars back in the day, even if taken the day of delivery, do not provide that proof, especially with something so easy to change or modify. Bottom line? MAYBE there were some Orange/Red/Chrome air cleaners put on at the factory, in fact if it happened that would be cool! But so far nobody here has posted enough evidence to make it indesputable.
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/21/12 02:07 PM
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Bob, respectfully.....No, you have me all wrong. Don't assume that I feel that I am uttering any sort of gospel when it's the furthest thing from the truth just because I choose to "put my head out of the rabbit hole" and debate a claim of originallity. What I'm trying to get accross (apparently which little success) is when someone, anyone comes to the table with an example of a detail that deviates from what was the production line "norm" that they should understand that it will be viewed with skepticism without producing rock solid evidence to back it up before it will be accepted as an actual production line variable or possibility. I am not, and would never say #1. That someone is a liar. #2. That it was impossible. #3. That it never happened. All I am asking for is some backup to prove the claims. Photos of cars back in the day, even if taken the day of delivery, do not provide that proof, especially with something so easy to change or modify.
Bottom line? MAYBE there were some Orange/Red/Chrome air cleaners put on at the factory, in fact if it happened that would be cool! But so far nobody here has posted enough evidence to make it indesputable.
Ok,Scott,I admit I'am a liar,BSer and senile and your on a crusade to set the world right.I think you have been in your rabbit hole to long and have put that carrot in the wrong hole also.Your disatertion or diatrob only proves you can't admit your wrong and only further goes to show who you really are.Watch out for Almer Fudd,he may pop your head off the next time you it out of your "rabbit hole"you silly rabbit. PS: I don't have you "all wrong" you prove to everyone who you really are".Buy the way my brother Tony said to tell you happy Thanksgiving and that he's having rabbit and carrots this year instead of turkey and taters.
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Re: 64 SuperStock Dodge ?
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11/21/12 02:15 PM
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Bob, respectfully.....No, you have me all wrong. Don't assume that I feel that I am uttering any sort of gospel when it's the furthest thing from the truth just because I choose to "put my head out of the rabbit hole" and debate a claim of originallity. What I'm trying to get accross (apparently which little success) is when someone, anyone comes to the table with an example of a detail that deviates from what was the production line "norm" that they should understand that it will be viewed with skepticism without producing rock solid evidence to back it up before it will be accepted as an actual production line variable or possibility. I am not, and would never say #1. That someone is a liar. #2. That it was impossible. #3. That it never happened. All I am asking for is some backup to prove the claims. Photos of cars back in the day, even if taken the day of delivery, do not provide that proof, especially with something so easy to change or modify.
Bottom line? MAYBE there were some Orange/Red/Chrome air cleaners put on at the factory, in fact if it happened that would be cool! But so far nobody here has posted enough evidence to make it indesputable.
Ok,Scott,I admit I'am a liar,BSer and senile and your on a crusade to set the world right.I think you have been in your rabbit hole to long and have put that carrot in the wrong hole also.Your disatertion or diatrob only proves you can't admit your wrong and only further goes to show who you really are.Watch out for Almer Fudd,he may pop your head off the next time you it out of your "rabbit hole"you silly rabbit. PS: I don't have you "all wrong" you prove to everyone who you really are".Buy the way my brother Tony said to tell you happy Thanksgiving and that he's having rabbit and carrots this year instead of turkey and taters.
Since this thread won't die, might as well throw another coal on the fire. http://s79.beta.photobucket.com/user/jcailey/media/MOV02234.mp4.html
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