Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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09/26/12 06:20 PM
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My '72 Dart has had the leaf springs moved into the frame rails, and minitubbed. It came with a B-body rear (60-1/8" drum to drum) with new spring perches already in place, and old stock-sized tires and wheels for rolling it around. I plan on either 295-60R15 or even 325-50R15 if they'll fit in there. 451, 4-speed, mostly street use. I got a great deal on Moparts for a pair of steel wheels widened to 10" with 8" backspacing, figuring on the sleeper look and that would be enough backspacing to use the B-body rear as is. Unfortunately it's not. The outer edges of the rims, even with that maximum possible backspacing, is just about even with the unrolled inner fender lip. And there's miles of room between the inside of the rim and the frame rail (actually more like 4" but I haven't measured it yet). So it looks like I either have to narrow the rear about 1.5 - 2" per side, which means new axles before I can even roll the body around, or get an A-body rear and run it stock for a while. I'm on a budget here so a Strange 60 is not really an option
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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09/27/12 03:42 AM
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See if you can buy, trade, steal or swap for a 1965 B body rear end, not from a station wagon though The 1965 B bodys are the narrowest B body housing with the standard 5x4.5 bolt patterns I think there right at one to one and a half inches narrower than the 1967 and later B bodys, not sure about 1966 B bodys, sorry
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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Dr Diff is out your way. check with Cass he is a great member for axle work.
I have seen plenty of good things about Dr. Diff but the website says he's in Montana... and I'm in Missouri. Not exactly next door
from here in Florida,Montana & Missouri are out that way. no?
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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No, you're not being silly, but the problem is that no usable tires will fit until I get it narrowed or get another rear... and the 8" backspacing on my 10" rims is the maximum possible. I suppose I could use a dually wheel but now I'm being silly (Even with the stock skinnies on 5" rims, the sidewalls are only 1/2" from the inner fender lips) Besides, I prefer the sleeper look of steel rims without that "deep-dish" Pro Street vibe. From the side, just how big the tires are will not be immediately obvious, and from behind... well, I'm already in front!
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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Here's a place just west of St.Louis off I-44 that could do what you need. http://bdfab.com/ From their website. Quote:
B & D Fabrication • 106 Jamie Court • Villa Ridge, MO 63089 • 636-742-2929
B & D FABRICATIONS IS A MIDWEST LEADER IN REBUILDING REAR ENDS! Locally owned and operated since 1995, B & D Fabrications specializes in axle resplining, narrowed housings, differential set-up, installing posi units, bolt pattern changes, and we stock new and used parts. We've also partnered up with ARB Air Locker, Motive Gear, Trail Gear, and offer high quality disc brakes to provide you with some of the best gear for your ride!! B & D Fabrications also has a full machine shop and can help you customize parts that will keep on or off road!
Our motto is "Our responsibility to you, our customer, really begins after the sale. Your continued satisfaction is part of our obligation and that means SERVICE. Only with thorough, efficient and on-time service can we earn your continued patronage."
Dan Smith, The guy that built my Hemi also builds rear ends and narrows housings. I can give you his number too in a pm if you want.
Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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Here's a place just west of St.Louis off I-44 that could do what you need. http://bdfab.com/
Getting warmer, that's only 170 miles from my house and I do travel to St. Louis regularly...
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Dan Smith, The guy that built my Hemi also builds rear ends and narrows housings. I can give you his number too in a pm if you want.
Where's he located? thanks.
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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I'm getting tired of calling shops that are either out of business, don't do narrowing, don't have the jig for 8-3/4, or worse yet "bring it by and we'll take a look at it". I'm probably going to end up shipping the empty housing somewhere. Hopefully not that expensive on my FedEx (Ground) account. One of the disadvantages of living in a rural area... Anyone know what an empty 8-3/4 housing weighs?
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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I'm getting tired of calling shops that are either out of business, don't do narrowing, don't have the jig for 8-3/4, or worse yet "bring it by and we'll take a look at it".
I'm probably going to end up shipping the empty housing somewhere. Hopefully not that expensive on my FedEx (Ground) account. One of the disadvantages of living in a rural area...
Anyone know what an empty 8-3/4 housing weighs?
Send it to Cass or Moser.
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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I shipped one (A-Body housing) via the USPS about 7 years ago, and it was surprisingly inexpensive. Plug some guestimated numbers here: http://postcalc.usps.com/ Just to give you an idea, I plugged in 62"X12"X12" and 70 LBS, put in zip codes from Florida to California, and it came up under $100. For packaging, I cleaned it real well, put a couple layers of cardboard over the center section studs, and wrapped it in brown shipping paper. That's it...hope it helps.
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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I'm getting tired of calling shops that are either out of business, don't do narrowing, don't have the jig for 8-3/4, or worse yet "bring it by and we'll take a look at it".
I'm probably going to end up shipping the empty housing somewhere. Hopefully not that expensive on my FedEx (Ground) account. One of the disadvantages of living in a rural area...
Anyone know what an empty 8-3/4 housing weighs?
Send it to Cass or Moser.
best bang for the buck even with shipping.
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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I have all my work done by Moser Engineering. They're not too far out of Indy.
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Re: Narrow the rear or get another housing?
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If was me id yank the rear out put your wheels exactly where you want them to set in the wheel tub measure from back of rim to back of rim send housing and axels off to either moser or strange (strange is in il. Moser is in indiana) Have them back in a week be done with it
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