I deleted it and sent you a PM..I am about as easy going as you will find around here. But there is a limit to my generousity as well..

ok...i just want too say i disagree with mark...are you gonna delete this one Al???

I think we all got that from the previous posts. Had you bothered to read my previous post or PM about keeping it on topic and not personal there would be no reason for me to change anything.

no prob al...but i still dont like mark...at all...

So a group hug is out of the question

I am very sorry to see so many unhappy and obsessed with the way the race was run. The oil downs, rain, and cold temps significantly cut into the racing time on Friday - reducing everyone to 1 time run and cancelling the gamblers race.

It was unbelievable that one round of time runs could possibly take from 9:30 am till after 4:30pm, but that is what happened. The rain ended everything shortly there after.

Saturday was quite wet and cold, but the track crew worked their tail off to get it in top condition (starting at 5:30am).

Several car hooked harder than they normally do, and combined with the cool air making more power, the wheel stands were abundant. Some to the point of damaging parts on the fall back down. There were also rear ends and axles broken, and even one driveshaft shot out from under a car.

The Saturday program was to include the entire Victory Performance NSS race, the Q-32, 10.5 tire and 10.00 shootout, in addition to a box - no box race. Face it folks that is a LOT of racing to get in when the Victory class was 70 cars on its own. Everyone got two time run. (370+ cars), over 200 No Box cars got their first round in as well as 60 Box. We completed the 10.5 class and the 10.0 class, and got down to 5 NSS cars and it was nearing midnight. I can't imagine how much more time another round of box-no box would have added to the day. And to be honest, I felt the track was becoming too cold about 9pm.

Every Box/No Box first round winner got paid money. How is this any different from any other race that gets rained out/cancelled in the middle?

I guarantee the decision to cancel the Box/No Box was not made until yet another oil down at 10pm. I know this, as I was in the tower all day every, day of the event, watching how things happened. I am not the Promoter, nor the race director, just the track announcer. So I make no decisions, just tell everyone what I am told to say. And the cancel call was announced seconds after the choice was made.

Sunday was another "oil fest". What should have been a 8 hour program (9-5) went till 10pm.

All told in the three days there were somewhere near 17 hours of down time due to track clean-up, rain, and a small computer issue.

Despite LONG hours in the tower, I had a great time and even got out to see a few friends and racers. I really hope everyone realizes most of the problems with the event were uncontrollable and things had to be modified on the fly to keep the show going.

Thanks to all who attended, help, sponsored, or promoted what i feel is one of the best Mopar events in the country!

Scott

Great explanation,Scott! There is no way in the world that a promotor can predict the weather in advance,take a guess at the number of oildowns that may occur or computer glitches. I am sure that it is a learning curve for Josh and his crew. As far as the Victory N/SS series,sure...It has some brand x cars but that is what brings excitement to it! I would rather watch that class anyday over a jet car. Furthermore...How many people were upset over the death of Monster Mopar? There were quite a few as I recall. Then a guy steps up to take over the series and all is hunky dorey in Mopar land again! I can't fathom the cost of doing an event this big,you need some really good sponsors and hope like hell you at least break even. Bottom line here is to give the event a chance. If you did not like it,don't go! And like Al said...Please no more personal attacks. Thanks and carry on!! Ted

GREAT summary rich! I could not put it better

Did I read correctly that ONE car oiled the track
3.... THREE times..... YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING...
I sure hope he pulled to the side

I know he did twice...maybe I missed the third time? I saw the car in the pit later with caution tape wrapped around it.

I know he did 1 x , lol After awhile I thought they was cleaning up the same break all day, it was like 2 hours of clean up for just 1 oil down???
drove the entire lenght of the track!!!
I was trying to watch the racing, but it was just awfull to see,
it just didn't ever get good!!

He was paid to do it!! LOL!!
Friday was just plain BAD!! like a hot poker in the eye!!
then the rain,hail, then the cold air, and then the wind!! I watched a tent set up blow right into a hemia cuda and a new challenger in the show car area, the challenger suffered the worse, the hemi got just few scratches on its roof,, that's when everyone started taking those tents down!!
those things should not be allowed in a show car area,!! Period!!
Just a bad weather weekend, made everyone temper short!!
Then add guy who has no idea of when to shut off a pass, and stop!!

Wasn't there so I don't have a horse in this race. Personally from what I have read I think all parties should just use this year as a learning experience. A lot of off the wall things happened some could be prevented some couldn't. First thing I see is the weather could not be helped. Oil downs all the way down the track could. There has to be some very specific rules posted with severe consequences. I know breaks happen but you don't need to spread it the entire track. As for Glidden I think Josh should learn from this. And the learning is that his "CUSTOMERS" didn't like it. Not saying Glidden is a bad guy or it took a long time but it was something that rubbed his customers wrong so learn from it. He didn't know this before so don't hang him for it. He tried something and it did not work out. I am sure he knows that now. If it keeps happening his customer base will walk away. As for the racers they have a responsibility too. They have to understand Josh cannot control the weather. Also they have the responsibility to police their numbers. If they have guys oiling down the whole track they need to make these racers aware that they need to stop their vehicle before it does this. Personally I think it is just growing pains on both sides. Both sides need to realize this and stop making negative comments and saying me me me and work together now to try to iron out the bugs. Doodoo happens. Both sides need to work together so they both don't fall in it. Sorry for the rant.